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[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 child)

They did express their displeasure. Even said please

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu -4 points 3 months ago

That's true...

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[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 41 points 3 months ago

If you don't like the logo just say so.

That's literally what I did.

I guess if you spend enough time chatting with sparkling autocomplete you forget how real conversations work.

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[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago (15 children)

It is AI. 2min doodle would be better than this

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[+] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu -19 points 3 months ago (14 children)

I still like it and i have seen projects with much uglier logos made by humans. Nothing against humans or AI either.

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[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)

An ugly logo made by a human wasn't made by stealing from artists and disproportionately contributing to a climate crisis.

eta a qualifier I had assumed would be unnecessary...

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[+] drkt@scribe.disroot.org -15 points 3 months ago (12 children)

and contributing to a climate crisis.

Unless you want to argue that simply being alive is contributing to the climate crisis, I sure hope you don't eat meat.

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[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

Would you prefer I brought up:

The excessive use of fresh water?
The further upwards accumulation of wealth?
The effects on the cost of energy in communities near data centers?
The increased air pollution in communities near data centers powered by on-site gernators?

You can't just argue against one issue and brush aside the others. From my point of view, use of generative AI borders on indefensible.

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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org -1 points 3 months ago

Yes, I would prefer you brought all of those up instead! I am not pro-datacenter- I just want you to pick an issue that doesn't make you a hypocrite.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (8 children)

You seriously don't see the difference between a person existing and data centres pumping out slop made with stolen training days for the profit of billionaires? I'll take a meat eating truck driver over an LLM defending vegan jogger any day.

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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org -2 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

I'm not defending LLMs, and neither are vegans. I'm pointing out that hating on datacenters for climate reasons if you then also eat meat is insane and detached from reality.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

So you have to make zero pollution in order to criticize a big polluter? So vegans who drive cars should also keep their mouths shut?

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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org -1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

So you have to make zero pollution in order to criticize a big polluter?

No, but the meat industry next to datacenters is like a skyscraber next to a detached single family suburban home. It's just so irrelevant. For all the reasons that datacenters are bad, pick one that doesn't make you hypocrite.

So vegans who drive cars should also keep their mouths shut?

Yes.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The device that youre using to type your message used materials that the world as well as slave labour and the internet you use is based on arrays of data centres that consume energy from who knows what energy source, so would you kindly keep your mouth shut?