▲ 759 ▼ YouTube’s AI slop detector incorrectly targets Kurzgesagt as other creators fear same fate - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com) submitted 3 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 184 comments fedilink hide all child comments YouTube’s system for suppressing low-quality AI content mistakenly targeted Kurzgesagt, leaving the channel with its worst-performing upload since 2013.
[+] Klear@piefed.world -12 points 3 months ago (13 children) to you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (9 children) Which other platform should Kurzgesagt and all their 25M subscribers move to instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) 1985 song by Prince, popularized by Skinhead O'Connor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 months ago Skinhead permalink fedilink source parent [–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) Wht not spin up their own peertube instance? The tech is there. Idk how it would work out cost wise. 25M subscribers is a lot but how many simultaneous viewers would there be? 1000 is manageable, would probably only need one server. Creators must take distribution into their own hands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 6 points 3 months ago (3 children) 25M subscribers means 25M people getting notified to come watch a video all at once. They could easily end up with a half million requests to buffer the new video all at once, and that would take down anything short of a full CDN to handle local geo-caching. It wouldn't be cheap to handle the burst loads of new releases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) That seems quite high. How many people would actually watch as soon as they got the notification? Do their videos usually get 500k views in the first hour? It wouldn't have to be all or nothing at first. They could still post to Youtube to share the load. Start with 3 servers and see how they get on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, it really depends on how the notification is sent. Most people don't have push notifications set up on YouTube, so the spike wouldn't be crazy high there. Even a few 1000 people requesting a video at once could overwhelm a single server's bandwidth though. I completely guessed at the 2% number if they were on another platform that sent out emails or push notifications. But I'm sure they'd also lose a huge chunk of those subscribers when moving platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath 1 point 3 months ago Well I could have said Nebula, except that Kurzgesagt was on Nebula, and chose to leave it because they wanted to leech off of other creators on that platform and everyone else said "lol no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 1 point 3 months ago It's been seven hours and fifteen days, Since you took your love away. I go out every night and sleep all day. Since you took your love away. Since you been gone I can do whatever I want. I can see whomever I choose. I can eat my dinner in a fancy restaurant, but nothing, I said nothing, can take away this blues. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago to me and probably to over 2B people permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) It's criminal that this comment is being downvoted. I guess the average age of lemmy must be under 40. Not that surprising I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 4 points 3 months ago ...aaand someone downvoted yours too. People on lemmy really hate it when they don't get something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (9 children) Which other platform should Kurzgesagt and all their 25M subscribers move to instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) 1985 song by Prince, popularized by Skinhead O'Connor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 months ago Skinhead permalink fedilink source parent [–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) Wht not spin up their own peertube instance? The tech is there. Idk how it would work out cost wise. 25M subscribers is a lot but how many simultaneous viewers would there be? 1000 is manageable, would probably only need one server. Creators must take distribution into their own hands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 6 points 3 months ago (3 children) 25M subscribers means 25M people getting notified to come watch a video all at once. They could easily end up with a half million requests to buffer the new video all at once, and that would take down anything short of a full CDN to handle local geo-caching. It wouldn't be cheap to handle the burst loads of new releases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) That seems quite high. How many people would actually watch as soon as they got the notification? Do their videos usually get 500k views in the first hour? It wouldn't have to be all or nothing at first. They could still post to Youtube to share the load. Start with 3 servers and see how they get on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, it really depends on how the notification is sent. Most people don't have push notifications set up on YouTube, so the spike wouldn't be crazy high there. Even a few 1000 people requesting a video at once could overwhelm a single server's bandwidth though. I completely guessed at the 2% number if they were on another platform that sent out emails or push notifications. But I'm sure they'd also lose a huge chunk of those subscribers when moving platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath 1 point 3 months ago Well I could have said Nebula, except that Kurzgesagt was on Nebula, and chose to leave it because they wanted to leech off of other creators on that platform and everyone else said "lol no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 1 point 3 months ago It's been seven hours and fifteen days, Since you took your love away. I go out every night and sleep all day. Since you took your love away. Since you been gone I can do whatever I want. I can see whomever I choose. I can eat my dinner in a fancy restaurant, but nothing, I said nothing, can take away this blues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 child) 1985 song by Prince, popularized by Skinhead O'Connor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 10 points 3 months ago Skinhead permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) Wht not spin up their own peertube instance? The tech is there. Idk how it would work out cost wise. 25M subscribers is a lot but how many simultaneous viewers would there be? 1000 is manageable, would probably only need one server. Creators must take distribution into their own hands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 6 points 3 months ago (3 children) 25M subscribers means 25M people getting notified to come watch a video all at once. They could easily end up with a half million requests to buffer the new video all at once, and that would take down anything short of a full CDN to handle local geo-caching. It wouldn't be cheap to handle the burst loads of new releases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) That seems quite high. How many people would actually watch as soon as they got the notification? Do their videos usually get 500k views in the first hour? It wouldn't have to be all or nothing at first. They could still post to Youtube to share the load. Start with 3 servers and see how they get on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, it really depends on how the notification is sent. Most people don't have push notifications set up on YouTube, so the spike wouldn't be crazy high there. Even a few 1000 people requesting a video at once could overwhelm a single server's bandwidth though. I completely guessed at the 2% number if they were on another platform that sent out emails or push notifications. But I'm sure they'd also lose a huge chunk of those subscribers when moving platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 6 points 3 months ago (3 children) 25M subscribers means 25M people getting notified to come watch a video all at once. They could easily end up with a half million requests to buffer the new video all at once, and that would take down anything short of a full CDN to handle local geo-caching. It wouldn't be cheap to handle the burst loads of new releases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) That seems quite high. How many people would actually watch as soon as they got the notification? Do their videos usually get 500k views in the first hour? It wouldn't have to be all or nothing at first. They could still post to Youtube to share the load. Start with 3 servers and see how they get on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, it really depends on how the notification is sent. Most people don't have push notifications set up on YouTube, so the spike wouldn't be crazy high there. Even a few 1000 people requesting a video at once could overwhelm a single server's bandwidth though. I completely guessed at the 2% number if they were on another platform that sent out emails or push notifications. But I'm sure they'd also lose a huge chunk of those subscribers when moving platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mildseason@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) That seems quite high. How many people would actually watch as soon as they got the notification? Do their videos usually get 500k views in the first hour? It wouldn't have to be all or nothing at first. They could still post to Youtube to share the load. Start with 3 servers and see how they get on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, it really depends on how the notification is sent. Most people don't have push notifications set up on YouTube, so the spike wouldn't be crazy high there. Even a few 1000 people requesting a video at once could overwhelm a single server's bandwidth though. I completely guessed at the 2% number if they were on another platform that sent out emails or push notifications. But I'm sure they'd also lose a huge chunk of those subscribers when moving platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Well, it really depends on how the notification is sent. Most people don't have push notifications set up on YouTube, so the spike wouldn't be crazy high there. Even a few 1000 people requesting a video at once could overwhelm a single server's bandwidth though. I completely guessed at the 2% number if they were on another platform that sent out emails or push notifications. But I'm sure they'd also lose a huge chunk of those subscribers when moving platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 point 3 months ago I know KZ sends out notifications via Discord, so I expect they do get some sort of spike right after upload. And, as long as they are on YT, getting a quick post-upload spike also causes the video to be offered to more non-subscribers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath 1 point 3 months ago Well I could have said Nebula, except that Kurzgesagt was on Nebula, and chose to leave it because they wanted to leech off of other creators on that platform and everyone else said "lol no". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 1 point 3 months ago It's been seven hours and fifteen days, Since you took your love away. I go out every night and sleep all day. Since you took your love away. Since you been gone I can do whatever I want. I can see whomever I choose. I can eat my dinner in a fancy restaurant, but nothing, I said nothing, can take away this blues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago to me and probably to over 2B people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) It's criminal that this comment is being downvoted. I guess the average age of lemmy must be under 40. Not that surprising I suppose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Klear@piefed.world 4 points 3 months ago ...aaand someone downvoted yours too. People on lemmy really hate it when they don't get something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@piefed.world 4 points 3 months ago ...aaand someone downvoted yours too. People on lemmy really hate it when they don't get something. permalink fedilink source parent