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Luigi Mangione wants his trial televised and open access to as much media and public as possible. Prosecution does not. (discuss.online)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/luigimangione@lemmy.world
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[–] 68 points 3 months ago (16 children)

i have never bought into the story that he did it.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    50/50 in my mind.

    Like yes police incompetence should be expected, but they broke every rule arresting him, searching his bag, etc etc. Evidence being inadmissible aside, the police did a great job of substantiating our suspicions that Luigi was framed.

    On the other hand, this doesn't sound like someone who didn't do it. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R7R6dmYOVfc

    Like maybe he's alluding to the framing being an insult to the american people. But me personally if I was being framed by the government and desperately trying to get help, I would say it more plainly.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn’t take too much incorrect procedure for a case like this to fall apart

    Regardless of guilt

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago

    As it should.

    The police cornering someone in a McDonalds and "finding" evidence behind a wall of officers with zero transparency is exactly why courts shouldn't admit such evidence.

    Maybe if police didn't have a documented history and widely known legacy of false imprisonment, planting evidence, and down right corruption...

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    If he did, literally all the evidence was faked in a parallel construction so obvious it makes me doubt these people could have managed any other in history. It makes me question whether drug dogs might even be a real thing

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    drug dogs are not actually accurate at finding drugs, they sound off when their handler indicates. do with that what you will.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Fun fact, if you're white, you can easily smuggle things by just not watching the search.

    The cop is watching you to know when to signal the dog to alert.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    They either watch you to know when to signal, in the cases where it actually "works" (which, as fucked up as it is, reading your body language is "working" for some definition of working), or they're just using it as an excuse to search/harass you, in which case they just signal when they want to.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Can you back this up or is it just a trust me bro?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    https://www.bjjohnsonlaw.com/probable-cause-or-probable-fiction-the-legal-myth-of-the-drug-sniffing-dog

    A 2011 analysis by the Chicago Tribune examined three years of data on police dog alerts during traffic stops in suburban Chicago. The study found that drugs or paraphernalia were discovered in only 44% of cases where dogs alerted. Notably, the accuracy dropped to 27% when the driver was Latino, suggesting potential bias in the deployment or interpretation of canine alerts.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    This doesn't prove dogs can't detect odors. At best it implies bias in officers which is not really what you suggested. It's also a lone study.

    I work adjacent to this field so these kinds of claims coming from someone who clearly doesn't makes it sound like you don't really know what you are talking about.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Look man, I was just linking you to a study when you asked for sources. There’s no need for hostility here. Also, there are more studies discussed in the article if you actually click on the link.

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