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What's up with the manosphere brainrot? (fedinsfw.app)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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I left Reddit to get away from that, but unfortunately there still seem to be a fair number of users here that also are convinced men are the real underclass, victimized by everything.

I think I mostly run into it on meme communities. Is that just the destiny of all meme communities? To be overtaken by MRAs? It sucks because I genuinely like memes, but I don't like randomly being smacked in the face by misogyny all the time. Any other communities I should avoid?

Any insight or tips appreciated πŸ₯°

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[–] 12 points 3 months ago (15 children)

I will join the chorus asking for examples of what you are talking about. Any actually misogynistic content I see is typically massively downvoted.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    I'm going to be honest, I'm a little perplexed by the demands for evidence. I didn't really ask to debate wether or not my experiences are real, I asked for some advice. The typical thing to do if you're unfamiliar with the topic at hand and therefore can't offer any advice when asked would be to not offer any. I don't know why people are treating it like a challenge and it's my job to convince you, but I have some guesses, like, for example, that a lot of you aren't ready to accept criticism of something you don't like, or that some of you have some internal work to do that you're not ready for.

    Other commentors here know exactly what I'm talking about without demanding proof. It's not just me. I'm sorry if I misjudged you and you're actually just very interested in learning more about me, but you don't come off like that at all. You come off like you're prepared to dismiss any examples I tried to show you anyway.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    I mean, I am re-reading your post, and it doesnt look like you are asking for advice, but rather seeking a discussion of an observed phenomenon. You use phrases like "whats up with X?" and "is it always the fate of Y?" Then at the end you ask for suggestions of other communities to avoid, which seems, at least in my reading, to be the only time you are asking for advice. So in a post which seems, for the bulk of it, to want general discussion, it seems reasonable to want to see specific examples of what we are discussing.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    Well you're saying something that is blatantly untrue and then pretending its a pervasive issue you're being forced to deal with here every day. Meanwhile this is one of the few places its actually very uncommon and widely frowned upon. Only makes sense if you're trolling.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Yeah, your post where commenters were musing about how "naturally consensual" 14 year olds are is what made me block the shitpost community on Lemmy.world.

    I may not be popular in the meme communities, but I call out shit constantly. Y'all just want to be able to have your casual misogyny without any pushback at all.

    You're allowed to post it here, but people are allowed to respond to it as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (10 children)

    It's a daily constant occurrence that is universally approved of and pushed? Because that's what OP is saying in the post and comments.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    I see sexist comments every time I’m on Lemmy, yes.

    Sometimes they’re even DMed right at me.

    Whores die from whore diseases

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (8 children)

    I just see a loud small minority being treated as if its the vast majority. I feel the same about the shitty rape apologist/pedophilic comments you brought up. It just seems disingenuous to paint Lemmy as being a bastion for sexism where it's pushed, accepted and promoted. I wouldn't engage with the site or any of it's communities if that were the case. I'm more suprised that if you believe it is, you choose to.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I think that most men have a blind spot for this kind of sexism and while you may feel the same as I do about these topics, I don't think you're immune from said blind spot.

    If the vast majority was better about calling out the "loud, small minority", then maybe the minority wouldn't feel so big. Silence is complicity.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (6 children)

    But thats what I'm saying. I see the vast majority consistently calling out, downvoting and arguing against that minority. Significantly moreso than any other mixed online space I've engaged with. That's the difference I see and I think is being completely ignored. The overall cultural stance here is strongly against. Whereas every other major platform even remotely like this isn't. I guess pushing for better isn't a bad thing but I see it as a disingenuous angle. If anyone can make an account and engage, shitheads will poke out, its the way they are reacted to that sets the cultural standard. I see the way they're reacted to being highly negative. I see it as, there are some sexist people on Lemmy and they are consistently treated as shitty by the majority. Not, Lemmy is a sexist place for sexist people.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    I see a lot of those comments heavily upvoted and supported, especially when an OP is a woman. Take a look at any of violet's posts and comments to see a clear example. You should really look through that post I linked to you - it's the women of Lemmy talking about this issue.

    You should have seen the type of comments and DMs I got when the Graham Platner rapist story was revealed.

    There are some communities where it's better moderated than others. I find Lemmy to be significantly worse with the misogyny than Reddit for example. When men are the overwhelming demographic in a place, sexism and misogyny are allowed to flourish. Lemmy is reminiscent of early Reddit and 4chan these days.

    Your comments are coming really close to claiming "Not All Men!" as a way to wash your hands of this.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (4 children)

    That is fair,I do typically avoid Violets posts because of her age. Even at only 32 it makes me a bit uncomfortable. But I'd feel the same if it was a self proclaimed 18 year old male posting about how much they love drinking piss. It's good she can express herself and all, just not my thing to engage with personally. I read through many of the comments and I can't disagree sexsim exists here. I still strongly believe its the small minority and consistently frown upon by the majority. Aside from all that, I just so heavily disagree with that entire last statement lol. Considering lemmy to be even remotely close to old or contemporary 4chan/Reddit is completely insane. It kind of makes me feel you've not engaged with old or contemporary 4chan especially but reddit too. You know both sites have in the past and currently still host literal footage of rape,murder, sexual assault. Especially 4chan, there are at all times a "women rekt" (videos of dead women, them being raped, killed and/or assaulted) threads floating around. Reddit has dedicated misogynistic non kink communities with thousands of participants. The part I think is most important about that also, it has NOTHING to do with an actual ideologic stance. Its about advertising and making money. Thats why subreddits like jailbait, incel , etcetera. Only started disappearing when big money started coming in. Communities and posts like that do not and have not (to my knowledge) exist here. Clearly that's based ideologically not financially. I just really see that last paragraph as so completely ignorant and disingenuous.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Considering lemmy to be even remotely close to old or contemporary 4chan/Reddit is completely insane.

    The part I think is most important about that also, it has NOTHING to do with an actual ideologic stance. Its about advertising and making money. Thats why subreddits like jailbait, incel , etcetera. Only started disappearing when big money started coming in.

    That's exactly why I can compare Lemmy to early Reddit. Lemmy hasn't embraced advertising and making money, so these views are still tolerated and allowed to exist here in a way that is moderated differently on Reddit now.

    There's pros and cons to Reddit going public.

    Those views are quarantined to those subreddits while the sexism spills out on Lemmy everywhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    So why don't communities like jailbait, beatingwomen, incel, watchwomendie etcetera exist here then?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    There's not as many users on Lemmy and since those spaces already exist and are populated, people are going to use those spaces first before creating them here. In addition, times were different back in the early aughts when Reddit came to be.

    Comparing them doesn't mean they're the exact same beat for beat.

    The sexism in Lemmy is pervasive and I see it every day. Most of it is casual sexism like positing that women are geriatric in their 30s or women are gold-diggers or women choose to harm themselves with plastic surgery. Whether you believe the multitudes of women saying this same thing about Lemmy is up to you.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    Early aughts, you mean like 2 years ago in Reddits case and literally today in 4chan's? So its not that Lemmy wouldn't tolerate them, it's that nobody has tried and if they did, it would go well.... We are gonna go in circles. I disagree with you but realistically I'm not the one affected so that doesn't really matter. It sucks you have to deal with any hate. As with our prior pedophile/rape apologist conversation, I'm going to continue to call out shitty behavior and I know you will too. I appreciate the discussion Velma.

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