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[–] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

No. Lying is making a claim you actually believe is untrue. It's actual truthfulness is irrelevant. If you believe it's true, it's not a lie.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago*

    Yep, still working through this with one of my kids. Lying requires an intent to deceive, to mislead. You can say things that are untrue without meaning to, which is not lying

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'd like to believe there would be some carve out here for willful ignorance. Like if the truth is easily accessible and you choose to believe contrary to that because of some other thing, maybe you don't get grace on that.

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