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Would you support the Gun Act? (discuss.online)
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[–] 7 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Militias at the time of the revolution weren't organized. They were groups of farmers that could be called up to fight off an invasion when needed in place of a professional army. The 2nd was also intended to function as a check on state power. All of this is detailed in the federalist papers, written by the same authors as the constitution.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Just calling people into a group with a unified purpose and sense of responsibility reads as “organizing” to me.

    Getting a group of people to put up posters or fliers is organizing. It doesn’t need cards or logos or process.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago* (10 children)

    Cool. So nothing you said is an admission for regular civilians to have unfettered and unregulated access to firearms at all times. The 2nd Amendment is not for regular civilians to have access to firearms.

    Thanks for proving my point.

    They were groups of farmers that could be called up to fight off an invasion when needed in place of a professional army.

    But when those farmers were called up, they would then be armed. Those farmers were not armed before conscription. So your "right to bear arms" is only in emergency situations and not every day life.

    Thanks for clearing that up for all the Americans reading this.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    So nothing you said is an admission for regular civilians to have unfettered and unregulated access to firearms at all times.

    I don't have to say that, the federalist papers said that.

    So your "right to bear arms" is only in emergency situations and not every day life.

    "We may someday hand you a gun" isn't a right to bear arms lmao

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    So your "right to bear arms" is only in emergency situations and not every day life.

    "We may someday hand you a gun" isn't a right to bear arms lmao

    If you understand your constitution, finish the amendment. I dare you to look it up and write out the rest of it after "the right to bear arms".

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    A lot of people owned their own personal guns.

    And you keep saying farmers as if it was a specific group of the population. Like 90% of the population was farmers then.

    At this point I would venture to say your argument is just wrong.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't keep saying "Farmers". The person I replied to said Farmers were given guns to defend the Republic in the event of defending it. Which is what the second amendment is based on.

    Once again, a dumbass American further proves they don't even understand their own constitution.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    I did.not say they were given guns. I said they were given the right to bear arms in case they were called up to join a militia.

    You said they were given guns, and I said that doesn't count as a right to bear arms.

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