Donald Trump’s campaign strategist for his 2016 election win says: “I believe we will have a national emergency declared by late August,” ahead of the Congressional midterm elections due on November 3. “You will have enough evidence by mid-August to show that we have a massive problem” of election fraud, he tells me in an interview. Trump’s televised address to the nation on Thursday last week was the beginning of the process, he says.

The president declassified documents, which he claimed show “shocking vulnerabilities in our election infrastructure” revealed by the 2020 election.

These had been hidden, even from him, by a “deep state” conspiracy of US intelligence services, he posited.

Trump demanded that the Congress pass a bill called the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility, or SAVE, Act. The bill stipulates that all voters produce a passport or birth certificate to be eligible to vote. Democrats denounce it as an effort at mass disenfranchisement. The Brennan Centre for Justice at New York University estimates that it could block 21 million Americans from the ballot box.

Under the US Constitution, it’s the states, not the federal government, that run elections. The SAVE Act would force state governments to hand voter roll information to Washington.

Trump sent his Homeland Security Secretary, Markwayne Mullin, out the following morning to issue a threat to state officials: they could face prison time unless they followed the administration’s orders to remove non-citizens from rolls.

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[–] 54 points 3 months ago* (58 children)

There’s no conceivable way things would’ve been worse under Kamala. She wouldn’t have played three card monte with the nations coffers, she would have been professional and dignified when talking to press and to foreign leaders, and she wouldn’t have hammered on the DARVO button at the first sign of criticism.

Anybody that disagrees, well, enjoy your koolaid.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    But by not voting for her, you also supported genocide? Perhaps it was implied rather than explicit, but the result is the same

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago

    A reminder to anyone reading this comment, not voting is a vote for the winner. Elections matter. Votes matter. And there will always be a winner. Not voting is literally accepting the outcome of the election regardless of your participation.

    So if you chose not to vote in the last Federal Election, congratulations, you voted for Trump and everything happening is your fault.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    because I won’t sign my name off on genocide to protect my own interests, comfort, or privilege.

    Man, good thing Trump didn't do any of those. Dodged a bullet you did. Fucking moron.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I'm not even American you fucking idiot.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    What a stunning display of stupidity

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I understand how a lib might confuse principles with stupidity, being so foreign to the former and so familiar with the latter.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    Trump literally said thanks to him Palestine and Palestinians will all be destroyed. He literally thanked you for helping him do that.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Yes, and Biden said "no red lines", I'm not arguing for Trump, I'm arguing that they're equivalent. Thanks for supporting my point.

    Quantifiably more Palestinians died with Biden in office than Trump by the way. They're both embarrassing failures of our species who belong in the Hague, but Blue MAGA hates basic facts as much as Red MAGA does.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    They're only seemingly equivalent if you're one of those folks who votes based off of one talking point. Once you look at the whole body of things each side are doing, its clear they're not even close to equivalent.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    If I hear someone say "I support genocide", even if it's followed up by "but less than the other guy!" (which is again not supported by actual mortality numbers), I do not care what else they have to say.

    They are equivalent in every way which matters.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    Words that she never said. Lol, are you just paraphrasing or trying to sum up a point she made in a specific light?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, I am paraphrasing, glad you were able to clue in on the fact that she didn't literally say "I support genocide" verbatim. That might've been lost on a less intellectual soul than yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    So then your voting off a single topic that you've essentially made up. Nice! Oh, and look who is supporting genocide now.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    lmao I made up the UN-and-ICC-recognized genocide, ok lib

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, you didn't vote because you want things to entirely collapse in hope that we can rebuild better.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago*

    No, they didn't vote because they're a pussy who would rather wash their hands of the sins they've caused by saying "Well I didn't vote for this!" while they watches it happen because they didn't vote against it.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Hey look, it's one of those sanctimonious fucks. I'd been wondering if you're happy now. Looks like you're still standing by letting a fascist dictatorship steamroll your country

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know what you're talking about lol, I am anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian and I'm not sure how you arrived at any other conclusion since those topics weren't even directly discussed in this thread.

    I don't subscribe to anarcho-anything because a sufficiently organized malicious force will always be capable of subduing a sufficiently disorganized benevolent force. You don't organize humans in any relatively efficient manner on the scale of hundreds-of-millions-if-not-billions of people without some degree of hierarchies. Otherwise you'll either drown in bureaucracy while your enemy runs laps around you, or suffer the consequences of randomly selecting unqualified individuals for positions of leadership.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    Yes, I hate Trump.

    I just don't hate him any more or less than the equally-imperialist, equally-capitalist, equally-genocidal Democrats. He's just more "mask off". JD Thiel took a stronger stand against Israel than Holocaust Harris ever did ffs. AND AGAIN, that's not me supporting Trump/Vance, it's just illustrating that the Democrats are not substantially better when it comes to imperialism killing people.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You're still at fault for the genocide, sorry. Helping a dictator get elected because your fee-fees are more important than results makes you the problem.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You put a hypothetical of another nation before your own people.

    You would doom your own people to suffer the same fate as long as you can sit on a high horse. You throw away the women, lgbtq, and racial minorities to feel superior for what, exactly? A fucking assumption you have?!

    It’s not even that you have to vote for democrats. It’s that you feel the need to argue over how superior you are for it while the nation burns around you. And you call others blue MAGA, lol.

    You're not morally superior. You’re a traitor. You can’t be trusted.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Yes, I put the actual murder of millions of Palestinians over the hypothetical discomfort and generally-non-fatal persecution of Americans, very much including myself.

    To do otherwise would be to be a white supremacist: to decide that my potential suffering takes precedence over the actual genocide of "another nation's" population.

    And as America is a white supremacist nation, you're right, to refuse the white supremacist mindset you espouse does indeed make me a traitor to those who subscribe to it. I can live with that.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    How's that choice working out for you bud?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    "I have nothing to do with this problem, I won't touch the trolley lever even if there would be a thousand people in its path"

    It's a tough position and I don't agree personally, but I respect your decision. It is the right of voters to decide completely by their own criteria

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I don't respect this person's decision. They decided to opt out of the most basic way they can participate, and think that it's a morally superior position to allow the greater evil. That's stupid. You and I know that the lesser evil can be influenced by public opinion, and the greater evil just doubles down. It's a worse choice in every way, and allowing their country to crumble this way is petulant and bereft of responsibility and maturity.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    by far most votes don’t make a difference anyway

    That's remarkably disingenuous when some elections are literally won and lost by less than a few votes.

    Every vote matters. Just because you vote for someone or a party that doesn't win doesn't mean your vote is wasted. More people who might want to vote for that party don't because "Well, they only got 5% of the vote, so why bother" might see the next election that same party get 9% of the vote. Then 14%. Suddenly there's more people voting for that party that will draw in more people to vote.

    Every vote might not make a huge difference today, but it might be a part of a huge difference in 10 years.

    So shut the fuck up and vote.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    So besides directly and immediately allowing the greater fascist to win by abstaining from the easiest, most basic and important civil right known to civil society, what else are they doing to enable combat fascism?

    "Check this box to have a voice"

    "No."

    "K. Next?"

    "I RESPECT Y'ALL'S RIGHT TO ELIMINATE YOUR OWN RIGHTS BAR HA HA YA HA" - Fascists

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    It’s not necessarily the vote itself that does all the heavy lifting. Politicians pay a lot of attention to the stats of which groups are consistently voting and which issues are important for them, much more so than for what is important to the population at large because their bottom line is appealing to the people who show up to vote. Even if those votes are associated with their opponent if it’s a big enough block then throwing a bone to attract their vote becomes appealing.

    For example, old people are one of the most highly consistent blocks of voters and (in our aging society) a growing one, too. Everyone wants to appeal to them as the math gets a lot harder if old people totally reject you! So with politicians competing for their support, social security & medicare make up over 50% of all the increase in government spending (not including more interest in the loans to pay for that which is also very substantial), even though the government already spends six times more on the average 65+ person than on the children and young adults <26, despite the latter group being substantially more likely to be in poverty. It’s not an economically sound decision, investing in the youth would provide better returns for society by setting them on a better trajectory for all the working life they have yet to live. But most of the ages in that younger block are not allowed to vote and the older near 26 are very inconsistent at voting, so their concerns really do not matter to politicians except insofar as the children are a concern of their parents who are much more likely to be voting.

    Even if a movement is very popular with the general public, if that movement isn’t in the habit of voting politicians aren’t likely to stick out their neck for it if there are other more reliable voters they can appeal to. Because that would be seen as a wasted effort that won’t help them to win. But if a generally unpopular movement or view is popular with voters then politicians will tend to stand by it no matter what the general public has to say.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    @7101334 @steveLeo Silence is complicity. or you stupidly thought that TRUMP would stop it. Trump will gladly nuke the M-E as soon as he figures out how to profit from the ruins

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Actually, signing your name to endorse an open genocidaire is complicity.

    I'm clearly far from silent lol

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