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Uncle Bob becoming even worse: (lemmy.world)
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[–] 57 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

I'm significantly older than you. I started coding in the late 60's

Yeah, appeal to tangentially related experience, age and arrogance aren't a way to inspire confidence in your work.

We live in the perfect times to display that experience, age and arrogance haven't been working in almost any field, from politics to LLM development. We've yet to witness any system that operates well, while also eliminating human oversight. It doesn't matter the guard rails you put in place. They're only as strong as your personal ability to evaluate your own product, which itself is a conflict of interest.

Edit: Also, you can't use your own credentials to assert the integrity of work you aren't even actually doing yet passing as your own.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Not to be too flippant, but:

    Boomers gonna boom.

    They literally can't help themselves, they're egomaniacal narcissists.

    The rare ones that aren't that way can truly be awesome sources of perspective... but goddamnit so many of them are completely insufferable man-babies.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Boomers have been noted in studies to display worse cognitive decline at their age than any prior generation and it shows.

    Its almost universally a generation that absolutely refuses to learn or adapt to the changes the world has experienced since Reagan, to the point of violence.

    The only difference between this guy and other boomers is he's at least someone up to date with modern technology. Most boomers don't even know how to use smart phones or self checkout. You know... technology they've only had ALMOST 2 FUCKING DECADES TO BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not defending boomers in any way, but I see the same thing with younger people; that is the allergic reaction to learning about technology. I work in technology, so that's is my sole perspective. I would wager that plenty of young people are allergic to learning about ANYTHING, I just see the tech part.

    I don't expect people outside of my vocation to be experts, but I can't imagine wanting to be utterly confused by the world at large--the world in which technology is literally everywhere. What would one's life be like if you had no clue how any of it worked? You just live in some sort of magical world where digital pixies do everything for you? You're not at all curious how it works? What about when it goes wrong? You just stand there and softly weep in a puddle of your own piss until someone rescues you?

    I feel this way about cars too. I don't expect everyone to be a mechanic, but people will drive around with THE most horrible sounds coming out of their car and they're like "yeah, it started doing that a while back". Zero interest in perhaps having someone look at it or concern that it may turn into a bigger or more expensive problem in the future? A problem that they will have to pay for personally?

    The entire life approach of being absolutely rigid to change or new information is such a puzzle to me. Life is hard enough, and these people just want to make it harder all because they're scared that they may have to put a little brainpower into learning something on their own?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    The difference is the young people got their minds obliterated by convenience through apps from a young age... and everyone saying that this would be the new permanent sustainable future, so doing anything the hardway is just stupid.

    They were presented with all this, the content on demand, the simplified UIs... things that mostly 'just worked'.

    They also grew up in a time where there is no reward for perservering through difficulty and confusion. The economy, to a job seeker, is a random casino, or nepotism, that's it.

    So to them... any kind of delayed benefit is more pointless.

    They're not 'making it harder for themselves'... curiosity is a thing that has to be nurtured, encouraged, rewarded... and everything about their lives did the opposite, punished it, mocked it.

    Thats not a switch you can just flip. They don't know how to contemplate.

    Another important other part of this is the Boomers rigged society to work for them and fuck everyone else, and lied about doing that... and the Millenials, Zoomers and now Alphas all grew up to now in that world.

    Homeowner average age is just the Boomer's average age. Political figures get older and older, anomalously.

    And... nobody teaches anybody anything any more. The Boomers stopped passing down useful life advice, and that has now compounded into the incredible irresponsibility of Millenial parents just handing their 6 month old an Ipad, to do the parenting for them.

    Of course the broadly shit economic conditions for Millenials are a huge part of why that happens...

    But you can't pass down skills and habits you don't have, because they were never passed to you.

    I am a millenial. Taught myself how to cook, taught myself car maintenance, taught myself socializing and romance advice/strategies, taught myself personal finance habits... my parents either didn't have time, mocked me for not already knowing, or actively had terrible advice that was either immoral, ineffective, or both.

    And I think that is a very common Millenial experience.

    My dad would tell me about the good times he had learning shit from his dad... and then just... didn't do that, with me.

    Maybe I am a bad example, because I am so no contact with my parents they probably think I am dead.

    But then again... more and more millenials are going no contact with their Boomer parents, because they've been treated similarly terribly.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Makes me remember the joke of the failure of the Soviet bordello, they just didn't understand why, they got the most experienced girls there were to find!

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