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"Where you will melt for all eternity in the fires of Mount Doom!" (discuss.online)
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[–] 55 points 3 months ago (12 children)

As a recovering Catholic, it is doubly funny because hell is not even biblical.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The renaissance period is responsible for hell and the visualization of Satan.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago*

    It was more the Greeks.

    Yes a lot of how we see satan in iconography or whatever came out of the renaissance, but the idea of a place of torture in the afterlife has its roots in Greek mythology. (Specifically, Tartarus,)

    That said, Jesus definitely conceived of a place of eternal torture for people who didn’t agree that he was all that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Hell is absolutely biblical, in the new testament. For example it's discussed in Matthew and second Peter. It's not a thing in the Hebrew bible. Dante's hell is not biblical in the least.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Where? The only one I can think of is Jesus saying there's a place where there's wailing and gnashing of teeth, which could easily be the DMV or the Internet

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    He speaks of Gehenna (geennē, γέεννα in Greek). Properly "The Valley of The Sons of Hinnom", a place (according to the BDAG) where the final judgment was to take place and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Every instance of the word “hell” in an English bible comes from a completely different word in the Hebrew and Greek, ones with meanings like “the grave.” Jesus does spin a parable about Hades once. The same Hades portrayed the Disney cartoon Hercules. It is still not “hell,” though.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, "Hell" in the Hebrew bible is Sheol, which is more like "the grave" or "underworld", though the HALOT notes the root is uncertain.

    Gehenna, though, as seen in Matthew, is the place where the final judgment was supposed to occur and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Didn't Jeremiah have something about a lake of fire or something or was that just the desolation supposed to follow Jerusalem, I am not the best bibblical scholar I just start cults for fun

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Most of what christians mentally picture their afterlife to be was written by a 14th century Italian mad-lad with a chip on his sholder and an axe to grind with multiple popes. Its all sorta blended together these days.

    Ill give the other abrahamic cults credit for their attenpts at maintaining a faithful translation or opting to not officially do one at all. Makes keeping track of who believes what easier.

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