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[–] 12 points 3 months ago (13 children)

I don‘t think that this attitude is productive. Every school of thought has the potential of turning authoritarian and attract people who just want power and influence over people.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This fact is why anarchism is so appealing to me, they don't have all the answers but they've at least identified the problem: Authority.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's kind of also the biggest problem with anarchy. It still has a foundation of social contract, the idea that we're allowed to exist without authority. There really isn't anything that stops someone from building power and exerting it on others. No one wants to accept a despot over freedom but if someone rolls up to my farm in a tank and says they own it now, I'm not really in any position to say otherwise. In a hierarchy of need, living sits above liberty.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    That's why I can't be an anarchist. They're like the libertarians of the left. They're too idealistic. They never explain how they'll keep people from asserting power over others, and prevent nation states from forming, because it isn't possible without giving a different person similar power.

    I'll take an imperfect but stable system over one that collapses the second someone with bad intentions gains control over weapons or other means of exerting power.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    That's the edge democracy has, you can kick the motherfucker out.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    That edge cuts both ways though, the history of democracy dating back to its foundation is people who should never have been given power getting put in charge. How many early democracies become dictatorships? Even today, the US has been trying to shake off the parasitic powers that be for decades and they just keep getting stronger.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Sure, but do you have a (credible) alternative?

    IMO we should work on democracy (wherever you live) and make it more grassroot and direct. Power to the people, and not just "vote every 3-4-5-6 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    No actually, that's my biggest frustration. Every single system fails to function as intended when you introduce people to it. Some will be bad actors to exploit the system for their gain. Some will be uninterested in participating and pick by habit. The tribalism of an area will inherently sway the results and it won't always be in everyone's best interest.

    Even on that grass roots level, it can be used poorly. A great example is my home town of Whitewater. When desegregation came to Kansas, the residents petitioned to keep it. When that failed, they took matters into their own hands and burned down and bulldozed most of the cheaper side of town in a proactive bid to limit the aforeability and availability for colored people who may consider moving there. Decades later, the town is still diverse and has never recovered economically. It had a model T showroom at one time and now can't keep a Hunts Brother's pizza in buisness.

    There isn't any political system where one liar with enough idiots can't ruin it for everyone.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Socialism is credible and proven, except for when Democracy©️ crushes, sanctions, and embargos, to prove how it doesn't work.

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