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[–] 125 points 3 months ago (19 children)

HR is not your friend. Do not go complain to HR. It will almost always bite you in the ass. They are there to protect the upper management and don't give a fuck about doing the right thing

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  • [–] 84 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Depends. I’ve thought of it as a way to document for a lawsuit, especially if they don’t fix a real problem.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, if shit is already sideways, HR can end up being a record keeper for you, and they are on the company's side, so if they said it happened, it is in the best possible light for the company as is, and if that still looks bad... well

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  • [–] 50 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They are not your friend but they are also not your manager's friend. They're there to protect the corporation, the CEO and the board. If your manager is doing something that can get the company in legal trouble then HR can absolutely shed the manager. Especially if you demonstrate that you're building a solid case (e.g. documenting each incident while memory is fresh).

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago

    Correct. HR is not your friend and they are there to make sure that the company is not liable for any damages. If you are in the rare position where upper management is not your opponent and whatever shit is happening can float up to them, then HR can be used as a weapon.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Well, it really depends on how strong your areas labour laws are. HR will protect the company from violating labour laws and being sued/fined and the HR people might be happy to help you, but in the end you don't really matter. All they're doing is protecting the company.

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  • [–] 64 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Man, this isn't always true.

    At least not in civilised world... maybe US is such a shithole but HR can do a lot of good when the manager is shit at their job.

    Lemmy is basically site wide antiwork subreddit so I'm not surprised.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago

    I can only speak from my US perspective, but here OP is correct. If you complain to HR, they will say whatever they legally can to placate you in the moment, but they will also start a file and collaborate with your manager to begin building a case for dismissal. In the US, you're always better off applying for a new job than talking to HR about a problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    In northern Europe this is correct. HR is absolutely the employers/Companys/organisations tool. They may be helpful if they see a manager is actually harmful to the employer/company, but that is rarely the case unless the manager has done something actually forbidden and it is documented. As an employee you're far better off contacting your union representative.

    Source: Married to an HR specialist.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    HR recorded my sexism complaint against an old manager. Got me moved to a better team at least

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