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It’s not me, it’s them: Platner goes down snarling with graceless exit video (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

It wasn’t a believable story when Platner was obsessed with the military throughout most of his life.

Supporters wanted plausible deniability and it blew up in everyone’s face.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    And why should interest in the military directly lead to Nazi symbols?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Have you read into Platner at all?

    He absolutely had an interest in both of the world wars.

    I’m not going to debate you whether a man who has voluntarily signed up for military tours multiple times knows about war history and Nazis. I’m just not. No one is stupid enough to believe that Platner at no point in his life knew that tattoo wasn’t just a skull and crossbones.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    There are plenty of interesting things about the world wars—hell about the Nazis themselves, but the symbolism just isn't one of them. If anything it's so utterly uninteresting that short of being shoved into one's face (the way the swastika is) there's no reason for anyone who doesn't study Nazism for a living to know about SS-style skull and crossbones.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's worth knowing also that the Death's Head was no more of an original Nazi design than the swastika. The skull and crossbones design has been used for millenia, but even the modern design began in the mid-19th century. The British used it in WW1. The reason for this is that skulls are pretty cool and the exact type of thing a drunk Marine on his first tour would get tattooed on himself.

    Also worth knowing that the symbol was pretty well neutralized in the US by 2007. It was the equivalent of wearing a Hugo Boss suit, nowhere close to being a swastika. It was a Call of Duty emblem. The ADL didnt even consider it a hate symbol until 2020.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago

    Yeah. As an ACTUAL history buff (albeit, with enough stupid boy in me to also love military history), saying you are "a history buff" is a borderline dog whistle for "I like WW2 movies". Saying you are a "military history buff" even moreso. And platner is of the age where that would basically mean "Watched the History Channel" at the peak of "The Hitler Channel".

    Folk will tell themselves whatever lies it takes to never have to admit they were wrong about a candidate they knew nothing about other than "white guy" and "said 'medicare for all' once"

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