Apparently some lawsuits have started on Sony's potential price-fixing of all games on their platform since they're now the only retailer. Before anyone gets excited, these are probably going nowhere, but it's neat that something is happening. The idea seems similar to the Epic vs Apple/Google lawsuits.

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[–] 6 points 4 months ago (34 children)

All resistance is futile, unless (the vast majority of) people will not buy it at all. But they, as usual, will do that anyway, no matter what.

Most people seem to not see the longterm implications of things or just don't understand or care.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    The console market has ceded market share to PC over the past few decades specifically because a growing portion of the market sees that it's cheaper over time. Everyone knows about Steam sales being better than the equivalent on consoles, whether they know it's because of increased market competition or not. More and more people have shown that they're doing the math on subscriptions to play online and realizing that it's not a good deal. When you cut out the physical market and its own methods of keeping purchase prices down, more people still will do the math and decide not to engage.

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  • [+] 0 points 4 months ago (8 children)
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    Even in that chart it does. In 2003 (Steam rolls out for the first time), the blue PC portion of the chart is clearly smaller than the green console portion. In 2020, at the end of that graph, PC is bigger than all consoles combined. That's not shared equally, and there are outliers aplenty, like League of Legends probably making a disproportionate amount of money compared to the rest of PC for several years, but we've seen traditional console publishers like Ubisoft and Capcom show that PC is now more often than not the lead platform. In 2011, there had to be a petition to bring Dark Souls to PC when it wasn't even considered before, and then about 10 years later, Elden Ring on PC outsold both PlayStation versions combined.

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    I can't help what you infer from what I said, but I didn't say runaway. I said it's been ceding ground over decades, which it has. For another thing that's not captured in that broad graph, something like half of all playtime on consoles is only a few of the biggest live service games, which does skew things like dollars earned for those platforms while not reflecting the situation for the likes of companies that are putting out new video games every couple of years. No surprise that subscriptions haven't affected playing Fortnite on PS5, because free to play games don't require that subscription fee like Elden Ring does.

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    That was my point. Just revisit this thread in 10yrs and see.

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    Yes. That another consumer - right got slashed completely. The poor are forced to just rent houses, apts, cars, appliances and even fucking books and games. I drown in money and see a big cultural problem here, I don't know why you don't care. Because YOU can afford it? Or YOU don't care about owning stuff you paid money for?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Every day people die due to capitalism. Why should i explicitly care for some islamic state in some remote region i don't remotely care about? In a playstation-thread in a community about gaming?

    Big words, but what have you done lately to help people less fortunate than yourself? I'm a non-exploiting capitalist. Every employee of mine had excellent double-above-average salary, a come-and-go-as-you-please-work-ethics, shares in the company and free food and drinks. I donate tons of money to people (no stupid organizations), i work for free in a shelter and i don't buy shit noone needs to impress people i don't like. Scale doesn't matter btw, one can help even being piss-poor. If everyone else, and especially some billionaires, would too, everything would be nicer. But we don't.

    So please spare me the dying children (as if the adults wouldn't matter) someplace. Children here are dying too, and way too many not by natural causes. Homo homini lupus est.

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    I don’t need to advertise my contributions to strangers on the internet, and rationalize my behavior to satisfy a guilty conscience… The people in my community know what value I add.

    What i thought...big words from behind a keyboard. And I surely don't need a lecture from you about what capitalism is. Using a phone or a computer, using a car and whatnot and probably working somewhere while being in it and exploiting the poor chinese who made your devices. Stop partaking in it or change something. Call me when you made it, i'd happily give up my wealth to live in a better society.

    you’re just less successful at it.

    yes i am, that was the point. Was not so hard to grasp.

    Anyhow, I see where I am at now and hence withdraw from this "conversation"

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  • [+] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)
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    Your wits are only matched by your eloquency :)

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    Which surely will be the minority. I don't care either as I don't like consoles. But I like customer rights.

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    Obviously. But steam already killed the used game-market many moons ago. And physical games. I boycotted them for years when they launched, knowing how it would end. And here we are. Physical PC games totally eradicated. Gifting away games I'm done with to poorer people who like to game too? Gone. Buying a semi interesting game for half price used? Nope. All gone. And if you buy a physical box, you get a key and a disc with an outdated installer at best.

    Remember doom shareware?

    But even I caved in and spend 100k on steam games I will never own. At least they offer a great deal of service around it. As long as gaben lives...

    Movies and series I exclusively pirate. Music bandcamp, as I can still own the shit I buy.

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    There also are many many people doing things that have bad outcomes and are fine with it, because they just don't see the implications. I mean, half of the usa voted for trump.

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    The USA often shows their general high education in those things. And when should they inform a real opinion about anything when they have to juggle 3 jobs to survive? Which totally is intended.

    But "being fine with it" and REALLY understanding the long-term implications of whatever they do, are two kinda different things.

    I don't even know why it pisses me off. I rent nothing and own what I wanna own/have. But most people can't. The vast majority of this silly planet is poor and will soon own absolutely nothing except maybe a T-shirt. Not even a fucking console game.

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    Habits haven't changed. They were changed. Big and essential difference. And the newer generations don't even know the other side anymore. Other have to cope/adapt/boycott. Also movies and such are not always available. Unless you have accounts everywhere.

    With piracy, yes. I enter a movie or series name, wait 1-2 minutes and watch it in 4k...legally? Nah.

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