▲ 922 ▼ Google must pay €4.1bn fine for using Android to 'block' rivals (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 4 months ago by LadyButterfly@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 125 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (6 children) Doesn't have satellite view or bus/tram navigation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago It also plans routes longer than Google maps, and 90% of the places you want to go don't come up in search. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) map apps solve the first by using outside satellite imagery services. but it has bus/tram line data, so if the app supports it then it should work. not comaps but osmand supports it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) Osmand seems more promising but you can only search for public transport leaving right now, not in two hours or the next day permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children) yeah, osm does not have schedule data, but it wouldn't be feasible to keep that info in osm, because it changes constantly. instead bus schedules are supposed to be in GTFS datasets, normally published by the transport company. there are already services like transitous and motis, that aggregate and sanitize these sources for consumption by apps. comaps has plens for adding support, but it's going slowly. https://transitous.org/ https://github.com/motis-project/motis Europe has relatively good coverage with these services, but as I see it the end user apps are still not ready. also, transport providers often don't publish realtime data, even if they are collecting it for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info. I hope someday it gets good enough that I don't have to feel like I'm making sacrifices when switching over permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago till that happens, personally I use a local transportation app I got from the play store ages ago, but has little data mining as I see it. it works with regularly updated offline databases, so my queries and location don't get uploaded anywhere permalink fedilink source parent
[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago It also plans routes longer than Google maps, and 90% of the places you want to go don't come up in search. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) map apps solve the first by using outside satellite imagery services. but it has bus/tram line data, so if the app supports it then it should work. not comaps but osmand supports it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) Osmand seems more promising but you can only search for public transport leaving right now, not in two hours or the next day permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children) yeah, osm does not have schedule data, but it wouldn't be feasible to keep that info in osm, because it changes constantly. instead bus schedules are supposed to be in GTFS datasets, normally published by the transport company. there are already services like transitous and motis, that aggregate and sanitize these sources for consumption by apps. comaps has plens for adding support, but it's going slowly. https://transitous.org/ https://github.com/motis-project/motis Europe has relatively good coverage with these services, but as I see it the end user apps are still not ready. also, transport providers often don't publish realtime data, even if they are collecting it for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info. I hope someday it gets good enough that I don't have to feel like I'm making sacrifices when switching over permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago till that happens, personally I use a local transportation app I got from the play store ages ago, but has little data mining as I see it. it works with regularly updated offline databases, so my queries and location don't get uploaded anywhere permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago (3 children) Osmand seems more promising but you can only search for public transport leaving right now, not in two hours or the next day permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children) yeah, osm does not have schedule data, but it wouldn't be feasible to keep that info in osm, because it changes constantly. instead bus schedules are supposed to be in GTFS datasets, normally published by the transport company. there are already services like transitous and motis, that aggregate and sanitize these sources for consumption by apps. comaps has plens for adding support, but it's going slowly. https://transitous.org/ https://github.com/motis-project/motis Europe has relatively good coverage with these services, but as I see it the end user apps are still not ready. also, transport providers often don't publish realtime data, even if they are collecting it for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info. I hope someday it gets good enough that I don't have to feel like I'm making sacrifices when switching over permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago till that happens, personally I use a local transportation app I got from the play store ages ago, but has little data mining as I see it. it works with regularly updated offline databases, so my queries and location don't get uploaded anywhere permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children) yeah, osm does not have schedule data, but it wouldn't be feasible to keep that info in osm, because it changes constantly. instead bus schedules are supposed to be in GTFS datasets, normally published by the transport company. there are already services like transitous and motis, that aggregate and sanitize these sources for consumption by apps. comaps has plens for adding support, but it's going slowly. https://transitous.org/ https://github.com/motis-project/motis Europe has relatively good coverage with these services, but as I see it the end user apps are still not ready. also, transport providers often don't publish realtime data, even if they are collecting it for themselves. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info. I hope someday it gets good enough that I don't have to feel like I'm making sacrifices when switching over permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago till that happens, personally I use a local transportation app I got from the play store ages ago, but has little data mining as I see it. it works with regularly updated offline databases, so my queries and location don't get uploaded anywhere permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Thanks for the info. I hope someday it gets good enough that I don't have to feel like I'm making sacrifices when switching over permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago till that happens, personally I use a local transportation app I got from the play store ages ago, but has little data mining as I see it. it works with regularly updated offline databases, so my queries and location don't get uploaded anywhere permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago till that happens, personally I use a local transportation app I got from the play store ages ago, but has little data mining as I see it. it works with regularly updated offline databases, so my queries and location don't get uploaded anywhere permalink fedilink source parent