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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 202 points 4 months ago (23 children) another one bites the dust. https://killedbygoogle.com/ 306 entries now. permalink fedilink source hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago (19 children) RIP Google Play Music. Have yet to find another streaming service who's algorithm knew me so well to discover new music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you'd queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don't know what happened to it as we stopped using it. then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i've just been using my private collection since then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (17 children) That one doesn’t make a lick of sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 4 months ago (15 children) Are you new to the internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (14 children) I am very confused I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought? Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (8 children) Ahhh, that makes sense! Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today. Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I've heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don't care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago* YouTube music is just GPM continued without the ability to upload your own library. Interface obviously is different but they've done good refining it over the years where there's nothing I really feel like I'm missing compared to GPM. Also all the music I uploaded back ~13 years ago (damn) is still accessible in YTM permalink fedilink source parent [–] nerdspice@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago 😂 I haven’t heard that phrase in a southern minute. permalink fedilink source parent [–] huppakee@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 child) Still mourning Google Reader, luckily we can find consolation i in that all those apps and services weren't strategically killed by an evil corporation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 13 points 4 months ago* Yeah i liked it too. I self host freshrss which is better nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent [–] poopkins@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago We all love to rag on Google, but this is such a nonsense website. Most of the things "killed" there are superseded by another product, like AI studio replacing Firebase Studio and Google TV replacing Chromecast. Then there's stuff nobody's ever heard of just to pad the list. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago (19 children) RIP Google Play Music. Have yet to find another streaming service who's algorithm knew me so well to discover new music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you'd queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don't know what happened to it as we stopped using it. then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i've just been using my private collection since then. permalink fedilink source parent [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (17 children) That one doesn’t make a lick of sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 4 months ago (15 children) Are you new to the internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (14 children) I am very confused I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought? Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (8 children) Ahhh, that makes sense! Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today. Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I've heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don't care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago* YouTube music is just GPM continued without the ability to upload your own library. Interface obviously is different but they've done good refining it over the years where there's nothing I really feel like I'm missing compared to GPM. Also all the music I uploaded back ~13 years ago (damn) is still accessible in YTM permalink fedilink source parent [–] nerdspice@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago 😂 I haven’t heard that phrase in a southern minute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you'd queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don't know what happened to it as we stopped using it. then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i've just been using my private collection since then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (17 children) That one doesn’t make a lick of sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 4 months ago (15 children) Are you new to the internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (14 children) I am very confused I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought? Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (8 children) Ahhh, that makes sense! Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today. Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I've heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don't care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago* YouTube music is just GPM continued without the ability to upload your own library. Interface obviously is different but they've done good refining it over the years where there's nothing I really feel like I'm missing compared to GPM. Also all the music I uploaded back ~13 years ago (damn) is still accessible in YTM permalink fedilink source parent [–] nerdspice@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago 😂 I haven’t heard that phrase in a southern minute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 4 months ago (15 children) Are you new to the internet? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (14 children) I am very confused I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought? Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (8 children) Ahhh, that makes sense! Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today. Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I've heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don't care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago* YouTube music is just GPM continued without the ability to upload your own library. Interface obviously is different but they've done good refining it over the years where there's nothing I really feel like I'm missing compared to GPM. Also all the music I uploaded back ~13 years ago (damn) is still accessible in YTM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (14 children) I am very confused I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought? Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (8 children) Ahhh, that makes sense! Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today. Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I've heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don't care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago* YouTube music is just GPM continued without the ability to upload your own library. Interface obviously is different but they've done good refining it over the years where there's nothing I really feel like I'm missing compared to GPM. Also all the music I uploaded back ~13 years ago (damn) is still accessible in YTM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (8 children) Ahhh, that makes sense! Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn't make one lick of sense Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn't make any sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (7 children) I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 4 months ago (4 children) It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it. But it's really not any different than finding new music on the radio. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) I’ve been of the same opinion about getting all of one’s music from the radio since I was very young, as well hahaha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child) I don't disagree. My music preference was shaped by my cousin marrying a Mormon and giving me several CD spindles of rock music he wasn't allowed to listen to anymore. Although that was more of an expansion of my repertoire because I was already into nu metal as a kid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago dude, i HATE numetal it's so fun. like i love it but i don't like to listen to it. Who are your favorites? I've been following Jerry Horton since the 90s, he's an awesome guitarist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago hehe i just commented that to you. I got my best collection of blues off the radio because Hell Yeah NPR and a cassette tape recorder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 point 4 months ago Is not that: it's that there's so much new music that it just makes sense to use an algorithm to speed up the process of finding music you like... Without it most people just listen to the same thing they already know, or rely on a dj on the radio to pick music for them... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago i mean, it's not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I mean, you're kinda describing what they actually did Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I've still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn't exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today. Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I've heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don't care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IncogCyberSpaceUser@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) What would they use those algorithms for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 point 4 months ago* Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There's always something that can benefit from such insight. The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there's a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there's more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that's just location data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago* YouTube music is just GPM continued without the ability to upload your own library. Interface obviously is different but they've done good refining it over the years where there's nothing I really feel like I'm missing compared to GPM. Also all the music I uploaded back ~13 years ago (damn) is still accessible in YTM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nerdspice@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago 😂 I haven’t heard that phrase in a southern minute. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (1 child) Still mourning Google Reader, luckily we can find consolation i in that all those apps and services weren't strategically killed by an evil corporation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 13 points 4 months ago* Yeah i liked it too. I self host freshrss which is better nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 13 points 4 months ago* Yeah i liked it too. I self host freshrss which is better nowadays. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago We all love to rag on Google, but this is such a nonsense website. Most of the things "killed" there are superseded by another product, like AI studio replacing Firebase Studio and Google TV replacing Chromecast. Then there's stuff nobody's ever heard of just to pad the list. permalink fedilink source parent