▲ 96 ▼ We NEED a term such as "privacyslop" on the internet. (lemmy.world) submitted 4 months ago by MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ca 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments I see random websites that aren't open source saying they are "encrypted, safe", when they obviously aren't! Come on!
[–] XLE@piefed.social 25 points 4 months ago (8 children) Am I in the wrong community here? Burden of proof is always on the service to demonstrate that they are private. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] gemakey@lemmy.world -11 points 4 months ago (7 children) The burden of proof is on the claimant. In this case, the claim is that they are neither encrypted nor secure. The claim can be made from both sides but if neither provides proof then we're all just tinfoil hats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (2 children) Claimant? This isn't some Socratic debate or court of law, it's privacy 101. It's the safest position to take if you didn't know better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gemakey@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, claimant. It doesn't have to be a court of law for a word to have a meaning. When a person makes a claim, they are a claimant. I've always understood this to be plain English. It's exhausting when everyone wants to make pedantic arguments rather than discuss the topic. Are they encrypted or are they not? Let's answer the question and then we can have a Socratic debate about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The website is the claimant in this case. They are claiming they are secure, which is what OP is sceptical of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gemakey@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And what of the claims made in this post? Just blindly go with it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alberat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago the argument of this post is to not go blindly trusting something lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago The original claim is by the websites / services that they ARE encrypted / secure. Why are you conveniently ignoring that they're not providing any proof for their claims? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] gemakey@lemmy.world -11 points 4 months ago (7 children) The burden of proof is on the claimant. In this case, the claim is that they are neither encrypted nor secure. The claim can be made from both sides but if neither provides proof then we're all just tinfoil hats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (2 children) Claimant? This isn't some Socratic debate or court of law, it's privacy 101. It's the safest position to take if you didn't know better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gemakey@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, claimant. It doesn't have to be a court of law for a word to have a meaning. When a person makes a claim, they are a claimant. I've always understood this to be plain English. It's exhausting when everyone wants to make pedantic arguments rather than discuss the topic. Are they encrypted or are they not? Let's answer the question and then we can have a Socratic debate about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The website is the claimant in this case. They are claiming they are secure, which is what OP is sceptical of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gemakey@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And what of the claims made in this post? Just blindly go with it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alberat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago the argument of this post is to not go blindly trusting something lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago The original claim is by the websites / services that they ARE encrypted / secure. Why are you conveniently ignoring that they're not providing any proof for their claims? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (2 children) Claimant? This isn't some Socratic debate or court of law, it's privacy 101. It's the safest position to take if you didn't know better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gemakey@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, claimant. It doesn't have to be a court of law for a word to have a meaning. When a person makes a claim, they are a claimant. I've always understood this to be plain English. It's exhausting when everyone wants to make pedantic arguments rather than discuss the topic. Are they encrypted or are they not? Let's answer the question and then we can have a Socratic debate about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gemakey@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, claimant. It doesn't have to be a court of law for a word to have a meaning. When a person makes a claim, they are a claimant. I've always understood this to be plain English. It's exhausting when everyone wants to make pedantic arguments rather than discuss the topic. Are they encrypted or are they not? Let's answer the question and then we can have a Socratic debate about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] happysplinter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The website is the claimant in this case. They are claiming they are secure, which is what OP is sceptical of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gemakey@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And what of the claims made in this post? Just blindly go with it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alberat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago the argument of this post is to not go blindly trusting something lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gemakey@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (1 child) And what of the claims made in this post? Just blindly go with it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Alberat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago the argument of this post is to not go blindly trusting something lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago the argument of this post is to not go blindly trusting something lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago The original claim is by the websites / services that they ARE encrypted / secure. Why are you conveniently ignoring that they're not providing any proof for their claims? permalink fedilink source parent