We need to get back to being human beings and human doings

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[–] 101 points 4 months ago (18 children)

Yes, the naivety of OOP not realizing that southern Europe is some of the most expensive real estate in the world and that the Americans moving there are moving with hoarded wealth is hilarious to me. "Let them eat cake" energy

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  • [–] 68 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Last time I checked there were actually non-rich people in southern Europe.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    Yeah, give Mexico City a try. It's very much the same, only not so financially out of reach. You can get an okay house there for like $70,000 so you can buy a $2.5 million mansion. It's up to you and what kind of money you have.

    I'm just coming back off of three weeks there and holy crap what a difference between America and Mexico.

    Every street corner has foot traffic. There are shops every two city blocks for a 20 mile radius. There's a variety and art and culture, and everyone's just taking it easy. No one's in a big rush, even when their traffic is absolutely insane, it's insanity that's dealt with with a logical mind.

    Culturally, America is 100 years behind Mexico City.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    I've been to Mexico a few times, and I never would have described it that way to anybody. I literally saw people living in sheds when I went there.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I haven't been to Mexico City, but I did get to go to Puerto Vallarta, and it seemed to match that person's experience. It was safe, cheap, and beautiful. Honestly I don't remember seeing people living in sheds, but it might have been outside of the places we visited. Traffic was annoying, but less than a similar-sized city in the US. It helped that lot of people walked or used bikes. And the food was really fresh.

    The guy we were visiting was from the US and had moved there essentially because it was so nice while still having a very low cost of living compared to probably anywhere in the US. He mentioned the culture there was much more relaxed about time, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had a lot in common with OP's view of Southern Europe.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Who will provide the grand design:
    What is yours and what is mine?
    Cause there is no more new frontier.
    We have got to make it here.

    We satisfy our endless needs,
    And justify our bloody deeds,
    In the name of destiny,
    And in the name of God.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    What are you talking about? Real estate prices in southern Europe vary widely. Centers of the main cities on the coast are very expensive, everything else not so much. You will find the same lifestyle in Marbella and Cordoba but the prices are completely different. Not to mention all the smaller towns and villages with lots of real estate for sale. "Hoarded wealth" my ass.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I feel like you have never been nor seen from afar the situation in most southern europe countries huh

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