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Ubisoft Co-Founder Claude Guillemot Dies In Plane Crash (kotaku.com)
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[–] 34 points 4 months ago (66 children)

you don't get it mate I don't like the games ubisoft makes so making fun of someone who burned to death in a freak accident is totally justified

also his ancestors ran from the french revolution over 200 years ago. this is relevant because... uh.......

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  • [–] 55 points 4 months ago (23 children)

    Meh, I don't wish death on anyone, but that doesn't mean I have to be sad that a shitty person died.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (21 children)

    Nobody's criticizing people for not being sad. There's a word for this, "gloating".

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    I still think that's fine. Sometimes the world is better off when someone dies.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    Part of the 0.01%, made absurd amounts of money making games worse, heading a company actively fighting against unionisation.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Yes, causing harm to thousands of people is significantly worse than one person dying in a crash.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure Guillemot was a sociopath. There are many people whose deaths I would feel bad for, but he's not one of them.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    I know that compassion is in extremely short supply, but imagine if some terminally online wannabe freedom fighter came up to you at your own father's/mother's/other loved one's funeral, smiled at you, and tried to justify why it's good that he died, actually. I think you'd want to punch the fucker.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Wait, why do you hate lemmy for this? I think who you actually hate are humans. Reddit and all the other modern social media platforms have the same issues, because they too have humans.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Lemmy seems waaaay more negative in general though. It's actually kinda jarring being here sometimes.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Because most of us got banned on Reddit for speaking out.

    I guess I have to tolerate limpdicked equivocation and "let's all be sad some rich asshole carked it" on reddit but why here? Those spineless losers can fuck off back to reddit.

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  • [+] -1 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Why are you still posting?

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    It’s wrong to wish people dead

    I had this attitude 20 years ago. I no longer do. I've come to realize that there are certain rich fucks who are actively harming humanity directly (Hitler, Kissinger, Reagan, world leaders who send the poor to useless wars), and if they died and their death prevented more suffering, that's a good thing for humanity. Even the rich fucks that just hoard money are actively robbing from the poor to do so, and some of those people die as a result.

    How many people does a person have to kill before they are too far gone to save, and are just evil? How many levels of indirection does it take before they wouldn't be considered evil? What happens if a person indirectly kills millions of people? Is that still far enough to call them evil?

    These are the questions you should ask yourself when you try to plot out your own moral compass.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    The wealth hoarders immediately after that part you quoted.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Are they, really?

    Poor folks go through a lot as a result of being poor. It's hard to express how miserable the constant stress is, and it's not hard to understand how constant stress and the things we do to try and cope with it directly shorten lives.

    Yeah, merely inflicting suffering on innocent people isn't quite as bad as killing them outright but it's such a small difference that I don't see a lot to be gained from trying to differentiate them.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago*

    this isn't complicated

    the social contract basically boils down to, you at a baseline do right by me and in return I do the same for you

    assholes like this and other rich fucks try to game this system for profit by literally harming parts of our lives via loopholes

    when ass fucks say lets hurt person ‘insert something that has no impact on anything’ like skin color or sexuality that is wrong

    when people talk about wishing death on people that are literally fucking with our lives it should obviously not be the same

    whether tanking a video game falls into that bucket is nuanced but people like the united health fuck are easily fair game

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    That pretty much nails my feelings. Charlie Kirk is a huge piece of shit and I'm glad he died honestly. But I'd be a worse person if I made a personality out of mocking him for being dead. Can't we just take the win? Fate decided a bad person was over. I wish that could be that.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Who here is making this into their personality? It's the pearl clutchers here who are making this far bigger than it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    Before 2016 (and to an even greater degree, 2025), I would never have wished death on another person. However, the last ten years have been very eye opening for me. There are people whose continued existence on this mortal plane is the direct cause of untold hatred, suffering, and death (all unnecessary).

    Humanity, and quite literally the planet itself, would be much better off with them dead. And, in fact, their continued existence is a direct threat to all life on this planet.

    Whether or not it's healthy is a separate question. I can't say I'm super happy about it. But it is what it is.

    Yes, there are degrees and this Ubisoft guy isn't on the same level as, say, Trump or Stephen Miller. But they are both cancers on humanity, maybe just different "stages."

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Charlie Kirk was okay with people dying from gun violence if it meant fewer restrictions on guns. He fought against minority groups' rights. He was spreading dangerous rhetoric worldwide.

    The Ubisoft guy helped found a popular video game company and was probably just a generic rich prick at worst.

    The world is better off without Charlie Kirk. I doubt the world, let alone the video game industry, let alone even just Ubisoft, will get any better after today thanks to Guillemot's death.

    There's a huge difference here.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago*

    I mean, yeah, Kirk was unquestionably the bigger turd but I'm happy both are gone. They're all part of the same overarching issue with this world.

    Them just fixing their shit would be greatly preferable. But they wouldn't be part of the problem for very long if they were capable of that kind of introspection.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    The point is was making had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk other than he was an example of people being gleeful about a death. Which is unhealthy.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Way to skip over all the documented recent reasons people are posting.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    documented recent speculation that we don't know he was involved with? his brother yves was the ceo at the time of all this drama. Claude was just a stakeholder.

    it's clear that nobody knew who the fuck he was before this thread and suddenly everybody is trying to spin a story

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    Claude was a director and deputy CEO. He was on the board. He was directly involved in the technical and business management side for years. Calling him just a stakeholder undercuts his own opinion on what he did at Ubisoft as he expressed in a few interviews himself throughout the years.

    Just because you didn't know who he was doesn't mean the rest of us didn't. Yes Yves was the face and CEO, and thus the person directly named in the lawsuit because that's how it works, but Claude was often cited as the quiet force behind Yves anchoring him, serving as operations officer, advisor, and other titles over time.

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