In the United States there are people who genuinely believe NATO is a leftist organization. (There are NATO countries that legalized gay marriage, unlike non-NATO countries. That is the kind of actual rationale, I am not kidding.)

We also have folks that truly believe socialism is fascism. (Citing the authoritarianism of Stalin.)

Which means we got people who are NATOist anti-communists who fully believe they are leftist anti-fa.

We have been wholly robbed of the means of coherent discourse that it is barely even infighting. It's just plain fighting.