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'People will buy intelligence from us on a meter': ChatGPT's Sam Altman's AI vision worries critics (www.tomsguide.com)
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[–] 274 points 5 months ago (41 children)

They don't have intelligence, they have spicy AutoCorrect

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  • [–] 79 points 5 months ago (34 children)

    Exactly, I see people freaking out about this tech replacing them. It's not gonna happen, not with OpenAI's tech anyway. They don't have intelligence to sell. They have LLM's that are good at tricking people who don't know better into thinking it's inteligant. LLM's can't think and they can't reason.

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  • [–] 74 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I think the worry of large layoffs and instability while idiots try to use AI instead of people is founded even if it’ll end in disaster.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Certainly, since it is already happening. It's not gonna fully replace the workforce but it is reducing number of jobs. The amount of AI art I am seeing just on the street makes me sick, couldn't even bother to pay an artist a small amount when starting a new business.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    they will just hire from low income countries, maybe only limited amount senior level candidates in the US . thats what bio does mostly, really doesnt hire fresh undergrad, but someone with more significant experience soley, plus they can have the ones on visa with standby.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not worried about this tech replacing people, I'm worried about the fact that people are actively losing neural elasticity from using LLMs to think for them.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Dont be worried, be certain. People are RAPIDLY becoming dumber. They already were because of the dumbing down of everything in general but this is accelerating it.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    They tech doesn’t have to do what they say it will, they just have to convince enough middle managers to make enough graphs to get the c-levels to sign off on the huge cost savings that will never materialize.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Sorry, but you're wrong. I'm gonna get the downvotes because everyone loves to hate on AI, but it's true. There are many many entry level software jobs that can get replaced right now. I do AI research for climate stuff and all of my colleagues feel the same way. Yall can live in a different reality if it makes you feel better, but it's not the truth. That doesn't mean it's not a form of a bubble or at the peak of the hype cycle, though. Both things are true.

    From a wealthy elite perspective, it's the desire of the ultimate triumph of Capital over Labor, and that's terrifying as being on the Labor side.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    This is actually one of the bigger things overall, this level of disruption they hype, even if you buy the optimistic side of what can be delivered will either eventually lead to some sort of universal basic income for everyone(sus) or millions of people without income and no one able to replace the people who’s knowledge and experience are needed to correct mistakes that will for sure happen even if the models/agents get much better than they are forecasted to be. There’s more but I think the point is made.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It’s almost like people don’t realize that epistemologies have a time dimension that needs to be sustained to persist.

    That epistemologies have a body, which is human behaviour.

    The fuckin’ Morlocks are trying to conjure the singularity by a massive and rapid capture of the function of those epistemologies, in code that is now commodified and alienated, before their “only disrupt” ethos pulls the technological rug from under them and us completely.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I'm using it generally, to refer to skills, knowledge, and understanding of industries and other economic topics, per the thread. We are seeing disrupted chains of knowledge and experience, what amounts to an abdication of tradition, and a surrender of economic power. These specific epistemological systems are the fabric of civilization.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I'm a translator and the jobscape has completely changed. Basic shit can be done on a "eh, it's good enough" level so I stopped getting such job offers. The only thing I get now are technical work or something more "human" required like novels, game localization, other such works of art. I think it would be really hard right now for anyone new to find clients because most people are OK with just "OK."

    I made a Lemmy community for translators who like to provide help and also add a bit of human touch to the process.

    Interpreting is still in demand, I feel, because people still like hearing natural-sounding speech (AI is getting there but it's still kinda creepy) and it still mixes up a lot of information. Also, people don't speak with perfect grammar. They make mistakes, use filler words/sounds, trace back, mix languages... All of which confuse AI—for now. Also language pairs like English and Japanese can be a bit tricky because Japanese sentences tend to run on forever and also kinda go backwards compared to English (JA: reason then conclusion; EN: conclusion then reason, for example) which again throws off AI.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah if something is important enough that I need an interpreter instead of just fumbling through it with my bad second language skills, it will be a human. Things like that require understanding nuance and context and being able to say "sorry I didn't get that" so that they get it right.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    How capable are LLMs at replacing software jobs above an entry-level grade? I imagine giving a gaggle of fresh grads the entirety of human knowledge and asking them to create software would create something, but I don't imagine the outcome would be high enough quality to have a net positive in productivity after someone has to spend the next 5 years adding to or changing it.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    So let's talk about the Anthropic models, cause that's what I'm playing with on the company dime.

    Wire up a few mcp configs (don't even start me on the inherent risks associated with current MCP permissions model...) and give it a run book and it's great at generating reports for me about stuff I kinda care about.

    Could if replace an entry level grad? Sure. Will that company have all kinds of strange problems - hell yes. Think of it as an intern. You can give it all the crappy intern tasks while you make coffee. Only the intern improves when you give feedback...

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Also, I wonder what happens to these companies in the future when there are no senior developers anymore, because nobody hires junior developers to train up.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Cobol. We have experienced this problem happening organically with Cobol developers. The worlds financial infrastructure runs on Cobol and anyone who had skills in this language can pick the company they want to work at.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    they seem to be trying to do that, prefer to hire only senior/ or have multi-year experience in the field. biotech is pretty much at that level already, preferred candidates are the ones with GRAD degrees, or lower wage outsourced workers(visa holders) or somehow if you are lucky while getting a degree already have 2-4years experience working in a lab volunteer not as a labtech. or biotech/ health adjacent like CLS is gatekept by the limited the amount of schools that teach this graduate program(EVERYONE wants to bumrush cali to apply to those programs, so competitive)

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I can hate AI and acknowledge that you're correct.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    The people getting tricked are CEOs and investors.

    It's at least a bubble if not a fad.

    It'd be diffetent if the AI sales pitch were only tricking lonely people looking for text-only relationships.

    I agree with you in a sense, but what a good trick it is.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Technically spicy autocorrect is still AI. But technically a simple checkers program on a $5 Chinese gaming console is also AI, as long as it implements just some small aspect of intelligence. That technicality is exploited like crazy by the LLM hypers.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    so... even if it's not complete AGI, it's still extremely helpful for many industries, and extremely disruptive. There are long ways to go with it, but even these intermediate products are massive.

    Having said that, it's also in a bubble or the peak of the hype cycle. That doesn't mean it's nothing though. It will cause massive upheaval.

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