▲ 88 ▼ Flatpak’s Future May Leave Non-systemd Distros Behind (linuxiac.com) submitted 5 months ago by cm0002@lemy.lol to c/linux@programming.dev 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 5 months ago (11 children) Because it just works, and updates faster than apt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (10 children) Everything updates faster than apt, and AppImages just work if that's the standard we're going with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 12 points 5 months ago (9 children) I don't hate AppImages, but they're not as convenient as Flatpak permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (8 children) How? I dont think its possible to be more convenient than an AppImage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (6 children) How do you know an update has been released? How do you upgrade it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children) Gear Lever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreamy 2 points 5 months ago Use AppImageLauncher or Gear Lever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) AppImages don't go in Discover with all my other programs. They don't auto update, no review system, no way to cleanup the files they created when uninstalling, I have to manually add shortcuts to my app launcher. Also Flatseal is pretty cool. I've tried Gear Lever, but in my experience it hasn't ever succeeded in updating an AppImage for me. And it's kind of awkward giving it an AppImage file so it can move the file, instead of the download and the installation being the same single action. One thing a lot of people don't know about Flatpak is that you can get .flatpakref files like Kdenlive uses for their daily builds. Very cool! https://cdn.kde.org/flatpak/kdenlive-nightly/org.kde.kdenlive.flatpakref https://kdenlive.org/download/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (10 children) Everything updates faster than apt, and AppImages just work if that's the standard we're going with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 12 points 5 months ago (9 children) I don't hate AppImages, but they're not as convenient as Flatpak permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (8 children) How? I dont think its possible to be more convenient than an AppImage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (6 children) How do you know an update has been released? How do you upgrade it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children) Gear Lever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreamy 2 points 5 months ago Use AppImageLauncher or Gear Lever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) AppImages don't go in Discover with all my other programs. They don't auto update, no review system, no way to cleanup the files they created when uninstalling, I have to manually add shortcuts to my app launcher. Also Flatseal is pretty cool. I've tried Gear Lever, but in my experience it hasn't ever succeeded in updating an AppImage for me. And it's kind of awkward giving it an AppImage file so it can move the file, instead of the download and the installation being the same single action. One thing a lot of people don't know about Flatpak is that you can get .flatpakref files like Kdenlive uses for their daily builds. Very cool! https://cdn.kde.org/flatpak/kdenlive-nightly/org.kde.kdenlive.flatpakref https://kdenlive.org/download/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 12 points 5 months ago (9 children) I don't hate AppImages, but they're not as convenient as Flatpak permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (8 children) How? I dont think its possible to be more convenient than an AppImage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (6 children) How do you know an update has been released? How do you upgrade it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children) Gear Lever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreamy 2 points 5 months ago Use AppImageLauncher or Gear Lever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) AppImages don't go in Discover with all my other programs. They don't auto update, no review system, no way to cleanup the files they created when uninstalling, I have to manually add shortcuts to my app launcher. Also Flatseal is pretty cool. I've tried Gear Lever, but in my experience it hasn't ever succeeded in updating an AppImage for me. And it's kind of awkward giving it an AppImage file so it can move the file, instead of the download and the installation being the same single action. One thing a lot of people don't know about Flatpak is that you can get .flatpakref files like Kdenlive uses for their daily builds. Very cool! https://cdn.kde.org/flatpak/kdenlive-nightly/org.kde.kdenlive.flatpakref https://kdenlive.org/download/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (8 children) How? I dont think its possible to be more convenient than an AppImage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (6 children) How do you know an update has been released? How do you upgrade it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children) Gear Lever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreamy 2 points 5 months ago Use AppImageLauncher or Gear Lever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) AppImages don't go in Discover with all my other programs. They don't auto update, no review system, no way to cleanup the files they created when uninstalling, I have to manually add shortcuts to my app launcher. Also Flatseal is pretty cool. I've tried Gear Lever, but in my experience it hasn't ever succeeded in updating an AppImage for me. And it's kind of awkward giving it an AppImage file so it can move the file, instead of the download and the installation being the same single action. One thing a lot of people don't know about Flatpak is that you can get .flatpakref files like Kdenlive uses for their daily builds. Very cool! https://cdn.kde.org/flatpak/kdenlive-nightly/org.kde.kdenlive.flatpakref https://kdenlive.org/download/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (6 children) How do you know an update has been released? How do you upgrade it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children) Gear Lever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreamy 2 points 5 months ago Use AppImageLauncher or Gear Lever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children) Gear Lever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children) That's interesting, so it requires flatpak to install, but why would you when you already use flatpak? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) To use App Images! :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) For when the devs provide app image but not flatpak or are app images somehow better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago That or if you're running an immutable distro like Bazzite and there's an app image available because it's easier than setting up OS-tree layering etc. Or you just want an easy way to update app images lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreamy 2 points 5 months ago Use AppImageLauncher or Gear Lever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) AppImages don't go in Discover with all my other programs. They don't auto update, no review system, no way to cleanup the files they created when uninstalling, I have to manually add shortcuts to my app launcher. Also Flatseal is pretty cool. I've tried Gear Lever, but in my experience it hasn't ever succeeded in updating an AppImage for me. And it's kind of awkward giving it an AppImage file so it can move the file, instead of the download and the installation being the same single action. One thing a lot of people don't know about Flatpak is that you can get .flatpakref files like Kdenlive uses for their daily builds. Very cool! https://cdn.kde.org/flatpak/kdenlive-nightly/org.kde.kdenlive.flatpakref https://kdenlive.org/download/ permalink fedilink source parent