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[+] -7 points 5 months ago (8 children)

The thread of this conversation is exactly why a line has to be drawn and written in law using the clearest measure there is.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    A) No it doesn't. Where I live, it is entirely legal for a man to enter the women's bathroom. Nothing to do with transgender folks; it simply is not a crime.

    B) The UK has an official "gender recognition certificate" program. If you wanted to draw a line, I would think that individuals with such a certificate would fall on their recognized side of the line; however, under the new standard, a trans women with an official government issued gender recognition certificate is still considered by that same government to be a man for the purposes of using a toilet.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Oooor just let trans folk use the damn bathroom? There doesn't need to have a line drawn

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    Clearest measure here wouldn't be the "biological sex" anyway... Because going mens bathroom doesn't require a penis, last time I checked. But it does require to be perceived as a man which relates more to other characteristics like beard and appearance. Same goes the other way around.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    And how do you define something as subjective as that in law? Absolutely absurd.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    That’s the great thing… you don’t. They are trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. There are already laws in place which forbid harassment. There is absolutely no need to create a law which can’t be enforced anyway and is most likely causing more trouble (for cis people too!) than just keeping things like they were.

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