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[–] 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

spanish could be considered harder because it has a shit ton of personal pronouns and a lot of verb conjugations based on formality, time, and a lot of other shit, so you need to remember a lot these which makes it quite hard. japanese has some verb conjugation but it's way easier in comparison to spanish. i say that if you'd remove kanji from the formulation spanish is harder, otherwise yeah, that complicates things a lot in japanese.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Personal pronouns and verb conjugations based on formality

    Hoo boy, if you want to talk about vocabulary and grammar changes based on formality, that's like Japanese's whole thing.

    One thing nobody's mentioned in this thread is counters, which are little helper words attached to numbers. Which one you should use depends on what is being counted, the categories are highly idiosyncratic and generally have nothing to do with their ordinary use (e.g. 本, which elsewhere means "book" is the counter for long thin objects like pens or bananas), and there are dozens of them.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    i suspect that spanish has japanese beat in this regard because of its relatively larger geographical dissemination makes formality based grammar rules incompatible with each other -- effectively making all incompatible versions technically correct despite literally contradicting each other.

    it's one of the reasons why a majority of non-spanish speakers are taught european spanish rather than any of the SIGNIFICANTLY larger versions of spanish that exist.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    japanese formality system is not that hard, it's a couple conjugations and it pretty much doesn't change when it comes to gender, singular/plural, etc. it's really exaggerated how difficult that is. spanish doesn't have that many grammar rules for formality in that sense, but it adds another personal pronoun just for that.

    also counters is also something shared among all languages pretty much. a school of fish? sure... it's just whatever word/ideogram the language speakers decided it was what's best to describe that group.

    i'm not saying japanese is easy, just that some of those things are a bit not so much an issue as people make it seem to be. i am a native spanish speaker and i have practiced japanese for some time so i know a thing or two about that.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Spanish is more inflectional than Japanese. Keigo, the more respectful forms, holds cultural nuance, yes; but it isn't standardly required for meaning.

    Japanese is the more foreign language, but I've felt fairly let-off-the-hook as far as inflection goes.

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