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Obvious choice (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net
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[โ€“] 22 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I totally agree and I've been saying this for a little while. But get this, since there are plenty of unused grassy properties out there in America, there's somewhere they're making deals with sheep heard owners where the sheep are regularly brought over to the property to eat grass around and under the solar panels. Apparently trying to keep the grass cleaned up and not overgrowing the panels is a problem because of all the little nooks and crannies, getting mowing done under and around them as a pain in the ass. But the sheep can just come in there get a free meal and do the job perfectly well. It's win-win.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Here in the West they're just covering up all the desert areas that are not being used anyways. And they also bring in livestock of various kinds to take care of a lot of the weeds and keep it cleaned up as well. I think it's a great use of space since there is so much of it in such wide abundance of sun. There's also quite a few of the car parks here that have been installing solar panels over the cars and that's a great use as well but that's also quite a huge expense overall.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Desert areas can still have rich ecosystems that get severely affected by solar farms.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 6 months ago

    Someone said to me yesterday, why don't we redirect the Ord River (WAus) down to Kalgoorlie (also WA) and irrigate and farm the desert. Some real-life Fremen mind at work there. My eyes rolled so hard, the "its desert, nothing lives there", is strong with that one.

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  • [+] -7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

    the sheep, we envision when someone says sheep, wouldnt exist without humanity. its also -like all other bred animal breeds with similar situations- serious damage for their bones to carry 10kg's of extra fur(bred to be wooly).

    So no, this is not a win-win

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    Not a win because it's not vegan? Most people don't share your beliefs.

    Most people are happy to use the animals we have spent thousands of years making useful

    I see this as a win/win/win - the sheep farmer gets rent for the land the panels are on, the weeds are kept down by the sheep, we get clean electricity, we get wool

    Ed. "Animal races" the word is species, races is for the variation in humans, or in fantasy it's the humanoid species

    I suppose it would be reasonable to talk about races of sheep to talk about all the different types of sheep

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 6 months ago

    "most people dont share your beliefs" is not an argument for anything. imagine people saying that for a pro slavery work stance. same with "weve done that before".

    but sure correct my wording after making a fake argument, must be a very good sign for the confidence in your stance. :D Of course youre talking about sheep for wool, what else would you call a "win" here?

    And again, it is not a win, reread my first response, it literally already answered. Im sure deep down u see its pretty hard to not derail without addressing that/admitting theres unbendable, simple contradiction

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    even for non-vegan people the climate impact of sheep farming should be concerning.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 6 months ago

    interestingly enough - planetary boundries include more essential parameters than greenhouse gases if people would be interested in more food for thought.

    like degradation of soil to a level of unusable (N- & P-cycles) due to 75% of landuse for animal food ( "Joseph Poore and Thomas Nemecek (2018)" where sheep are "just" a small percentile since we breed thousand of millions of other human-made animal breeds) or usable freshwater supplies getting more and more critical decade after decade..

    this post to be fair was about where to put solar panels

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