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[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 12 points 6 months ago (39 children) I've never heard of Hexbear. Care to explain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago It's a leftist instance that's very active and will argue with people that post anticommunist popaganda. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 6 months ago Come see for yourself. I did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 41 points 6 months ago (20 children) Many instances defederated from them because a large chunk of the user base was abusive and brigading. To an extent even the worst right wing instances federated couldn't match. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not disputing your claim, as it doesn't surprise me at all, but I'm curious: What are "the worst right wing instances" ? I haven't paid enough attention to notice any instances with a consistent and noticeable right-wing lean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago There used to be exploding-heads.com, it was right-wing but not particularly active IIRC permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago Seconded, I am curious, too. I've only seen Tankies, Democrats, and Anarchists in lemmy.world, I haven't come across one Trump supporter in months. permalink fedilink source parent [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (11 children) [source needed] I don't like tankies much either but I've seen way worse from the fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (5 children) Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse. I don't want to step in either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago. Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head. But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost. Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists." I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear "pre-emptively" before they even had federation active. To this day, I have never seen this mythical hexbear brigading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Yes. And people including myself have accounts on other servers. And experienced it personally 3-4 years ago. That you didn't experience it doesn't disprove it. There's a reason many of us chose servers like world as primary, that didn't federate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sweetiesweetie@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Best you got. Weak. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago It's more often the reverse. You'll see accounts in hexbear-adjacent servers posting "Why Stalin Was Worse Than Hitler" tier content, getting banned, and then coming over to .world to scream and cry about how they've been censored by the mean Tankies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 months ago (2 children) They are authoritarian left and even though Russia is not a leftist country they will refuse to say a single thing bad about Russia, China, and some will even say nothing is wrong with north Korea. If you search the instance for 'Ukraine' you will see them saying Russia is the good guy in the Ukrainian war. They will say things like authoritarianism doesn't actually exist. I legitimately wonder how many posts are state sponsored lol. There are a lot of them on lemmy.ml as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago Just a week ago I had a conversation with someone that is thinking that Russia is a still a communist country and was arguing if I was sure about the opposite permalink fedilink source parent [+] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -8 points 6 months ago* They are authoritarian left Oh? What authority do they posses? If you search the instance for ‘Ukraine’ you will see them saying Russia is the good guy https://hexbear.net/search?q=Ukraine&type=All&listingType=All&page=1&sort=TopAll&titleOnly=false shrug permalink fedilink source parent [–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago it's just a leftist lemmy instance permalink fedilink source parent [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 0 points 6 months ago (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (10 children) You guys are so weird. Russia is awful for non-cis people and you're all falling over yourselves simping for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (8 children) Got it. Everything is the west's fault. Very nuanced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago It's a leftist instance that's very active and will argue with people that post anticommunist popaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 6 months ago Come see for yourself. I did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 41 points 6 months ago (20 children) Many instances defederated from them because a large chunk of the user base was abusive and brigading. To an extent even the worst right wing instances federated couldn't match. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not disputing your claim, as it doesn't surprise me at all, but I'm curious: What are "the worst right wing instances" ? I haven't paid enough attention to notice any instances with a consistent and noticeable right-wing lean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago There used to be exploding-heads.com, it was right-wing but not particularly active IIRC permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago Seconded, I am curious, too. I've only seen Tankies, Democrats, and Anarchists in lemmy.world, I haven't come across one Trump supporter in months. permalink fedilink source parent [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (11 children) [source needed] I don't like tankies much either but I've seen way worse from the fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (5 children) Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse. I don't want to step in either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago. Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head. But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost. Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists." I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear "pre-emptively" before they even had federation active. To this day, I have never seen this mythical hexbear brigading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Yes. And people including myself have accounts on other servers. And experienced it personally 3-4 years ago. That you didn't experience it doesn't disprove it. There's a reason many of us chose servers like world as primary, that didn't federate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sweetiesweetie@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Best you got. Weak. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago It's more often the reverse. You'll see accounts in hexbear-adjacent servers posting "Why Stalin Was Worse Than Hitler" tier content, getting banned, and then coming over to .world to scream and cry about how they've been censored by the mean Tankies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Not disputing your claim, as it doesn't surprise me at all, but I'm curious: What are "the worst right wing instances" ? I haven't paid enough attention to notice any instances with a consistent and noticeable right-wing lean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] antonim@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago There used to be exploding-heads.com, it was right-wing but not particularly active IIRC permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago Seconded, I am curious, too. I've only seen Tankies, Democrats, and Anarchists in lemmy.world, I haven't come across one Trump supporter in months. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antonim@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago There used to be exploding-heads.com, it was right-wing but not particularly active IIRC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago Seconded, I am curious, too. I've only seen Tankies, Democrats, and Anarchists in lemmy.world, I haven't come across one Trump supporter in months. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (11 children) [source needed] I don't like tankies much either but I've seen way worse from the fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (5 children) Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse. I don't want to step in either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago. Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head. But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost. Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists." I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (5 children) Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse. I don't want to step in either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago. Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head. But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost. Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists." I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (4 children) Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear "pre-emptively" before they even had federation active. To this day, I have never seen this mythical hexbear brigading. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Yes. And people including myself have accounts on other servers. And experienced it personally 3-4 years ago. That you didn't experience it doesn't disprove it. There's a reason many of us chose servers like world as primary, that didn't federate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sweetiesweetie@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Best you got. Weak. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago It's more often the reverse. You'll see accounts in hexbear-adjacent servers posting "Why Stalin Was Worse Than Hitler" tier content, getting banned, and then coming over to .world to scream and cry about how they've been censored by the mean Tankies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children) Yes. And people including myself have accounts on other servers. And experienced it personally 3-4 years ago. That you didn't experience it doesn't disprove it. There's a reason many of us chose servers like world as primary, that didn't federate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sweetiesweetie@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Best you got. Weak. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sweetiesweetie@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Best you got. Weak. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago It's more often the reverse. You'll see accounts in hexbear-adjacent servers posting "Why Stalin Was Worse Than Hitler" tier content, getting banned, and then coming over to .world to scream and cry about how they've been censored by the mean Tankies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 months ago (2 children) They are authoritarian left and even though Russia is not a leftist country they will refuse to say a single thing bad about Russia, China, and some will even say nothing is wrong with north Korea. If you search the instance for 'Ukraine' you will see them saying Russia is the good guy in the Ukrainian war. They will say things like authoritarianism doesn't actually exist. I legitimately wonder how many posts are state sponsored lol. There are a lot of them on lemmy.ml as well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago Just a week ago I had a conversation with someone that is thinking that Russia is a still a communist country and was arguing if I was sure about the opposite permalink fedilink source parent [+] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -8 points 6 months ago* They are authoritarian left Oh? What authority do they posses? If you search the instance for ‘Ukraine’ you will see them saying Russia is the good guy https://hexbear.net/search?q=Ukraine&type=All&listingType=All&page=1&sort=TopAll&titleOnly=false shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago Just a week ago I had a conversation with someone that is thinking that Russia is a still a communist country and was arguing if I was sure about the opposite permalink fedilink source parent
[+] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -8 points 6 months ago* They are authoritarian left Oh? What authority do they posses? If you search the instance for ‘Ukraine’ you will see them saying Russia is the good guy https://hexbear.net/search?q=Ukraine&type=All&listingType=All&page=1&sort=TopAll&titleOnly=false shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago it's just a leftist lemmy instance permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 0 points 6 months ago (11 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (10 children) You guys are so weird. Russia is awful for non-cis people and you're all falling over yourselves simping for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (8 children) Got it. Everything is the west's fault. Very nuanced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (10 children) You guys are so weird. Russia is awful for non-cis people and you're all falling over yourselves simping for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (8 children) Got it. Everything is the west's fault. Very nuanced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (8 children) Got it. Everything is the west's fault. Very nuanced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (8 children) Got it. Everything is the west's fault. Very nuanced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (6 children) You're the one who keeps dick measuring countries. I call out specific bad actions, regardless of who commits them. It's okay though, the west made you post that message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children) I wasn't thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that's a bad thing. What's the alternative, internet freedom where china can't police the media and public discourse? Sucks how the west makes china censor it's citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) So the state should choose what people can read and say? Why on earth would you want that? I really don't get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago There's the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it's accurate. I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options. I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media. I'm not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access? Media isn't blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc... Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that's a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news. permalink fedilink source parent