▲ 272 ▼ hexbear.net has raised over $1500 for Palestine over the past few weeks (hexbear.net) submitted 6 months ago by Riverside@reddthat.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 151 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago (11 children) [source needed] I don't like tankies much either but I've seen way worse from the fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (5 children) Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse. I don't want to step in either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago. Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head. But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost. Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists." I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) I saw right wingers raging (rarely), but there would be a post about Bernie sanders and every time there's a hexbear user saying "this capitalist bootlicking swine, I never want to see his revolting war criminal face again." And replied to all comments saying "wtf is wrong with you" with similar comments. Go check the thread of my instance asking if we should defederate, I can find it if you want. So many people who said "the toxicity from hexbear is overwhelming," myself included. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago I don't disagree with you. I think that we should encourage the hexbears to be pitted against the great danger first - fascism. When I discuss factionalism and solidarity, I try to put the accent on "I understand your criticism, and that is why we should focus on the great danger: fascism and corporatism. If we will grow without compromising, we must rally all behind that cause, so that we foster solidarity." Propaganda at its core, is "sling something at the wall often enough and it becomes truth". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (5 children) Not really sure if it's useful to ask if diarrea or regular shit is worse. I don't want to step in either permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago (4 children) Well, for one, in eg. East Germany, homosexuality was decriminalised before in the West. In fascist Italy and Germany, you were sent to a concentration camp. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 6 points 6 months ago And women's rights, and public infrastructure, and access to education etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) True. That's what the east reserved for people who critizised the state permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Riverside@reddthat.com [S] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago I'd like to thank you for proving my point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago Ultimately that comes down to personal experience and circumstance. And as you can see a lot of people either experienced it themselves or saw it as well. And I don't think it's controversial to say that the Chapo Trap House crew are rather immature. Unfortunately for you a lot of the evidence that you're searching for is lost to time on instances that were Federated that have shut down. If you have access to hexbear you could probably find some of them I'm sure lurking around from 3 to 4 years ago. Not going to lie I haven't interacted with them in at least 3 years and I haven't missed it. Maybe they've matured. Anything is possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 6 months ago To be fair, they did specify right-wing Lemmy instances, not right-wingers in general, and I can't think of any instances that would meet that definition off the top of my head. But Hexbear definitely has a reputation as some of the worst of the worst of the normal instances. Blahaj defederated from them despite Ada trying to get the trans communities of both instances connected because of the harassment, brigading, and outright transphobia Hexbear inflicted on Blahaj users for not being the right kind of leftists. You can still find the community discussions on the topic in the general instance posts. They even tried to claim that Blahaj was being transphobic to them. You know, the LGBTQ instance created and ran to be a space for trans people and others first and foremost. Hexbear is also known to have at least once tried to convince their mods to "take over other instances and ban all the non-communists." I believe that at this point if you were to download the stuff to spin up your own instance, Hexbear is on the list of instances that are defederated by default because so many instances have defederated them because of their behavior. permalink fedilink source parent