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[–] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (25 children)

I found it unbearable. Watched like 2.5 episodes and had to give up. I couldn't get past the part where people were waiting for so long they were literally collapsing in the waiting room while the nurses where just chatting and doctors were gossiping, flirting and doing anything but actually treating people. All the time a just wanted to scream "GET TO WORK YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!".

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Nurses weren't just chatting. The chapter depicts 1h of a shift and lasts 40m. You aren't seeing everything a nurse is doing. Also, they deserve to talk in their workplace, they aren't slaves? Remember that they are pulling +12h shifts man.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    I think we're talking about different shows. In The Pit I remember an episode where someone stole an ambulance and for the rest of the episode a bunch of employees where constantly standing there making bets about where it's heading or something. When a patient needed some basic stomach medicine two nurses standing next to a counter and just talking told the doctor "it will be easier if you give it to him". The doctor ended up spilling the liquid on himself and wasting what seemed like half an hour to change his clothes. All done without any hurry, like his actively trying to avoid work. All this time I'm thinking "why the fuck a nurse can't give a patient some basic medicine from the first aid kit?". Because they where busy chatting. The whole show is like this. They work like they are in IT department of a bank on a Friday evening while people wait 4 hours in the waiting room. That was the worst organized ER I have even seen and/or people with the worse work ethics I've seen.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds realistic af.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    If that's what healthcare looks like in US it's even more tragic than I thought. I don't mind gore in shows but this type of pointless suffering I do not like.

    In one of the episodes one doctor really had to go to the bathroom but he would get pulled into some pointless tasks and conversations all the time. I just couldn't stand it. The whole episode I was just thinking "did the other guy managed to pee?" or "dude, go! pee! NOW!". I'm strangely empathetic for this type of things. Same with people sitting in the waiting room while the doctor invades personal life of his coworkers. It all bothered me a lot.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    Those employees were assistants, not even nurses. They couldn't help with patients even if they wanted to. It's not that big of a deal Sheesh.

    The nurses can't legally provide that medicine, it has to be a doctor. That's the first day for that student doctor, he fuck up and changes way faster than in 30m. Again, first day, has to search for changes and everything himself.

    Idk why you think that they are lazy, did you expect everyone to be stressed out of their minds in the first 1-2h of their shift? Considering that the first and second hours is when the night shift gives their hands off to the day shift, there's a bunch of doctors and nurses that are out of the clock in those episodes, ending their shift and winding down before getting out.

    You are allowed to dislike the show off course, but have you seen a workplace?

    Also, edit:

    Watched like 2.5 episodes and had to give up

    The whole show is like this

    How'd you know?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not saying they are lazy. I'm saying they are extremely relaxed, like there's nothing to do. 90% of the show is doctors talking about personal stuff, bullying other doctors, dealing with feelings (theirs and others' people) and doing anything else than treating people. You're probably right that there's time for that in a workplace and even with people collapsing in the waiting room they have to stop and have a personal conversation with someone every now and then. Maybe they are treating people off camera and the show just focuses on other things. For me this focus was unbearable. It made it look like no one is being treated while doctors move around slower then me on a coffee break.

    It could also be that I'm used to ERs in Europe. Here when I go to ER doctors sit in their rooms and people get assigned to a room. So doctor will see one patient after another without walking around, wondering what case to pick next and chatting with people all the time. For me that's how hospitals work and The Pit just looked like a disorganized mess to me.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    What you described isn't an ER, it's called another thing that I can't recall in english sorry.

    I'm Spanish and we have one of the best healthcare systems in Europe even though other Spaniards complain. Here you call and can see your family doctor in 1-2 days where they see a patient every 15 mins non-stop almost, or go to a small ER-like thing where they only do triage work. They are almost nonstop in triage too, think McKay on The Pitt.

    If you need to go to the ER though, Urgencias here, there will be multiple doctors ready to take care of whatever is happening to you. Last time I went with my mom, we were in a room called a Box where the doctor came about every 30 mins to review the case or present results. Idk what they were doing out of the room but they looked busy.

    Also, for context, Whittaker (the dude that gets the drug skilled), Santos (the woman that's the bully kinda type in the first chapters) and Javadi (the youngest girl that gets sent to triage after fainting) are student doctors who still haven't finished their degree, they are doing internship. Those are usually more free than others because they mostly need to shadow actual doctors.

    Also the reason there's so many people waiting is because most patients that aren't in need of urgent care should be sent upstairs, where more nurses would take care of them; it's not that the ER doesn't have the manpower, it's that they don't have the room. The show does explain that but maybe not fast enough for you, idk.

    Aaanyway, sorry if I'm being overly verbose, I really don't feel like working RN :)

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    I also live in Spain. I've been to public and private hospitals and I think sometimes it's like you describe (doctor comes to the box) and sometimes the doctor is in the box and just sees one patient after another. Depends on a hospital. In general my experience is that you get in, wait for maybe 30 minutes, get treated and leave (I know it depends on the day and hospital). The Pit looked like hospitals during Covid yet they were relaxed, like it's not their problem, just business as usual. For me it felt like the doctors were immediately emotionally attaching to every patient they see but people suffering in the waiting room didn't matter to them.

    In the end it just depends on what you like. If you like personal dramas then you will probably enjoy The Pit. I don't like shows about personal dramas and watching an episode were doctor spends most of his time working as a psychologist for the family of a dying person instead of treating people waiting in pain in the waiting room was unbearable. I had the same issue with The Walking Dead (too much focus in personal dramas) but I enjoyed The Strain which had way more pragmatic characters.

    Bare in mind that I'm not saying it's a bad show. Acting, writing, production and all is top level. I do realize the show is very popular because a lot of people like stuff like that. I'm just not one of them.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not the person you’ve been talking to, but this part:

    you get in, wait for maybe 30 minutes, get treated and leave

    just seems crazy to me. I think my shortest ever hospital trip was around 4 hours, the average is more like 7-8 hours. I’ve seen as high as 22 hours before though. I’ve never seen the show but I’ve heard it’s one of the most accurate depictions of typical hospital work on tv.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    As I said, depends on the place and date. I most likely was fairly lucky. Most of the times I was using private hospitals. Private insurance is like 50 euros a month. I don't remember spending more than couple hours in ER including X-ray. There's a public hospital 15 minutes drive from me and I went there once in the middle of the night and it was pretty much empty. Got attended in ~30 minutes. I would definitely remember 7h wait.

    I've seen comments from nurses saying that The Pit completely ignores the job they are doing. My problem was that they were focusing on doctors' personal issues too much. I'm sure technically it was very realistic but the amount of personal drama vs actual medical work felt very unrealistic to me. But it's just a show, I know.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    That's one of the major plot points.

    Tap for spoilerNurse steps out for a smoke and a patient that had been waiting all day punches her in the face

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    My wife and I had just finished rewatching ER and tried The Pitt. It was too quiet, there was no noise or music, it felt sterile. I think we gave it 2 EPs as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    My only problem with ER is they never bother to resolve most of the plots.

    They had this one really interesting one where a mom is beaten to death and it's revealed her daughter did it and then we never see that family ever again

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I leant to be OK with that. The show is ER and whilst it also ran the OR side stories, they were always ER cases. I am sure that most cases an actual ER sends on they never hear from again.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    How does ER hold up? Still worth watching?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Oh ER is still excellent. An Australian TV station plays an episode a night 5 nights a week. Repeating back to S01E01 after the season finale. We looked forward to finishing the day with another ep.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Are you talking about The Pitt? Because it seems like you watched a completely different show than me.

    Did you watch ER by mistake?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I watched ER decades ago. I think the amount of personal dramas was similar but I don't remember if one of the main plot points of ER was totally collapsed waiting room. Maybe I'm miss-remembering it but I think in ER they were moving fast when it was needed. In The Pit it's clearly needed but get to work a bit faster but everyone takes their time with everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    They move too fast on er. Everything is life or death high stakes, dead bodies are laying around in the hall, gangbangers are barging into surgery rooms to finish off their victims, doctors and nurses should be burning out left and right.

    The Pitt feels more like an actual ER where it's just a job for the staff.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's pretty fucking tragic if that's what ER in US looks like. Which it probably does. Which is not surprising because healthcare in US is tragic in general.

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