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We want to live (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] 11 points 7 months ago (13 children)

I guess that's just life, isn't it? I mean people in stone age also lived under the threat of starvation if they just hang out in their caves. Of course, capitalism is the industrialized professional version of this, but I don't think this is inherently capitalistic.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    The difference is that we have all the tools and resources to not live like caveman nowadays. We could feed everyone if we wanted to, but the government would rather fire another barrage of missiles at impoverished people

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  • [+] -7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    People are not living like cavemen nowadays. They want iPhones and pickup trucks and air conditioning.

    If you're willing to spend your free time living the way a caveman did, you can probably get by working a lot fewer hours.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Iphone $800 Ford F350 $45,000

    A year of average US rent $25,000 which you have to keep paying every year and it goes up AT LEAST 8% every year.

    The truck will let you pay it off over 5 years so your monthly payments would be like 750. Not nothing for sure but still not even half of rent.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    You're not including monthly service for your cell phone, the accessories you need to buy (including a case), the electricity to charge it, and so-on.

    For the truck, you also need to include the gas, insurance and maintenance.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Hunter/gatherer and early farming societies typically had a lot more leisure time than we do today. Some researchers estimated they only 'worked' 15-30 hours a week, and a lot of that was dependent on seasons. In addition, their egalitarian structure and lack of pursuit for excess material goods meant no pressure for long work hours.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Hunter/gatherer and early farming societies typically had a lot more leisure time than we do today. Some researchers estimated they only ‘worked’ 15-30 hours a week

    That figure is both not a consensus, and it's a number of hours that's referring to time spent on food procurement only, nothing else of what's needed to live/survive.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    And they just accepted that only a fraction of their babies would live to become infants, and only a fraction of their infants would reach adulthood.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Are you suggesting that the 40-hour work week has a causal connection with the infant morality rate?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    There's an indirect one. The 40 hour week is the result of strikes from unions that are the result of factories which are the result of the industrial revolution which also led to improvements in medicine that massively reduced child mortality.

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