Obviously, the internet has always been a toxic place, (the phrase "flame war" has been around for decades,) but it seems to have gotten so much worse over the last few years. I used to think decentralization of the internet would fix the worst of it, but Lemmy seems to have gotten worse alongside the rest of internet culture, proving me wrong. How do we fix/improve this culture of toxicity?

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[–] 11 points 7 months ago (13 children)

dbzer0, and quokk.au

What's your issue with those instances, he asked quizzically.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    My coffee hasn't kicked in yet, so this is as diplomatic as I can phrase it under current conditions:

    Both are entrenched identity politics instances ("aNaRchISM!") and a good chunk of the calls for violence around here are from users there. You'll be over here trying to have a rational discussion, and someone from there comes in like the world's dumbest parrot who can only say "Bawk! Guillotines! Bawk! Luigi".

    dbzer0 was aight when it was just the piracy instance, but they've shifted more to far left politics and re-federated with Hexbear, so they're basically Hexbear-lite these days. Quokk turns a complete blind eye (or tacitly endorses) several power users who do nothing but call for violence, doxx, and/or do nothing but spread anarchist propaganda.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Thanks for answering!

    I don't have much problem with "anarchists," altho the term can mean a lot of things, and some of the typical core ideas are pie-in-the-sky to me. I certainly don't think of tankies as leftist, either, so it's troublesome that anyone would want to align with Hexbear.

    Regardless, bad actors and toxic users will always get the gas face* from me. I'll keep my eye on that stuff, thank you!

    * semi-obscure rap phrase from ~1990 I suppose, i.e. a jaundiced look

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    they are full of hostile angry people living in alternative version of reality

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    We are not angry or hostile, we just want to have some freedom and equality in the world.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    yeah and you see no issue with murdering people to get it done.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    There are people willing to kill you and everyone you love, cause any amount of suffering, and give zero thought for it, just so they can get more power. I don't mind if those people get deleted

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    You're talking about yourself. You are one of those people.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Anarchists believe no one should have power over others

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    then you shouldn't believe in violence. violence is power.

    you violate your own beliefs.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah it's like the famous paradox of tolerance, you must not tolerate intolerance

    Same way you gotta defend your freedoms from those trying to take them away from you, even if in doing so you end up violating theirs.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    No, it's that you're a thug who thinks they are a hero.

    And like all thugs, you hide behind theoretical bullshit to justify your horrible actions and beliefs as for the 'greater good'.

    And if you found yourself on the receiving end of the violence you propose, I don't think you'd be so eager about it.

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