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[–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

  1. I mean. According to who?

  2. So it sounds like they were being over policed and didn't really personally know the extent of it because they weren't deemed criminals and weren't directly affected?

  3. Okay cool.

  4. I got that figure from someone defending China over it iirc so I'm guessing it's accurate if you don't know offhand.

  5. Okay so they stopped it? Does that mean I'm supposed to go back to trusting the government? How do you square that?

Additionally: if a significant portion of the population was imprisoned, especially systematically by race, held against their will, and people were dying as a result of that, I would say that is the beginnings of a genocide. Just like how America is currently perpetuating Black genocide imo. Even if they didn't fully commit or succeed, I can't just go back to trusting that system.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I mean. According to who?

    The purpose of the program was to create people who can get jobs and be integrated into the economy. Making someone spend months doing hard labor isn't useful for decreasing terrorism and increasing economic development.

    So it sounds like they were being over policed

    Yes

    didn’t really personally know the extent of it

    They mostly chalked it up to the crime and terrorism. They didn't have much a response to "but it's safe now, why are there still so many cops".

    Okay so they stopped it? Does that mean I’m supposed to go back to trusting the government? How do you square that?

    Nobody said you should trust the Chinese government, I said you should not trust the US government or help them justify hostile action against foreign countries.

    The Uhygur people have their own struggles, that are entirely alien to the stories cooked up in western media.

    I got that figure from someone defending China over it iirc so I’m guessing it’s accurate if you don’t know offhand.

    That's 1 in 20 Uhygurs, I feel like it would have had a more pronounced effect and at that scale, I wouldn't run into people who seemed to have no idea it happened.

    people were dying as a result of that

    I'm pretty confident that didn't happen.

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