I used to be strictly materialist and atheist. Now I’m pretty spiritual. Don’t necessarily follow a religion and don’t support bigotry but yeah, I’m fairly spiritual now. This is a recent development and I never thought I’d be here like 5 years ago.

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[+] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    It is extremely clear that there are no all-powerful, all-knowing, benificent gods. They’re all lacking at least one of those things, if they exist at all. And then what is a “god”? It just becomes a semantics game and becomes pretty pointless to discuss.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You know there's religions without gods out there, right?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Took me a while to realize that for most people, it's less about religion and more about maintaining rituals and, more importantly, belonging to a community. To my knowledge, atheists don't have the latter outside the internet.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive positions.

    Theism is a belief structure.

    Gnosticism (I'm not talking about that Gnosticism) is a knowledge structure.

    Everyone is one of the following:

    • gnostic theist - I know (and believe) God exists
    • agnostic theist - I believe God exists (but I don't know)
    • agnostic atheist - I don't believe God exists (and I can't know)
    • gnostic atheist - I know (and believe) God doesn't exist

    Funnily enough, being a gnostic atheist is the weakest epistemic stance because of the burden of proof. The stubbornness is baked into the assertion.

    The second weakest position is gnostic theism. These people are simply using logical fallacies as a post-hoc vehicle to arrive at the truth they want.

    The third weakest position is agnostic theism, and it's one religion actually wears as a badge of honour; Faith.

    Finally, agnostic atheism, the truly enlightened finish line:

    "I don't know if God exists or not, but I know enough to spot a bullshit argument, and I have not heard a compelling argument for why I should believe in something I cannot verify"

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