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[–] 291 points 8 months ago* (72 children)

On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.

On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

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  • [–] 193 points 8 months ago (46 children)

    There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Imagine if he'd been one of the state of the union guests.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with 'his grandmother' rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    Man comedy has gone so downhill.

    Like there were the greats... Abbott, Costello...Kaufman, Belushi.

    Millennials got fucked again. Foxworthy. Dunham. Cable Guy. Eddie Murphy's later years. What have you done for me lately, Eddie?

    We could've kept Chris Farley, but he had to die. And without him, David Spade is worthless.

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  • [–] 76 points 8 months ago (27 children)

    Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

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  • [–] 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.

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  • [–] 60 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.

    It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Trump's Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I'm pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    See, this is my take as well - other people knew/guessed his passwords and used his account that way. Keeping him alive really doesn't do anything for the "it's all a coverup" story, especially when a LOT of his associates and contacts are getting tangled up in this release of his files. Additionally, this guy was talking so openly about manipulating markets, sex crimes, and all sorts of legal and quasi legal shit that I find it hard to imagine that EVEN IF he was connected to Israeli intelligence like has been suggested, EVEN IF he got spirited out of prison and away to Tel Aviv, I find it hard to imagine Mossad would want to keep such a DEEPLY compromised asset alive instead of driving him into the Negev and putting two bullets in the back of his head.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (11 children)

    That someone was exposed as a teenage "hacker".

    I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    "hacker"... According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein's handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.

    I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn't a suicide. I'm not sure what incentive he'd have to both lie about identifying his brother's body and making so much noise about it being a murder...

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I've been hearing that the "changed handle" thing isn't valid, because when an account handle is changed you can still see the original on the user's profile (and that wasn't the case for the littlestjeff account). With all the misinformation flying around, I have no idea about the accuracy of this though.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    it’s a very common security issue. it’s usually not a problem because deletions aren’t very common: usually accounts are just inactive, and it’s not a problem that really effects the company itself so there’s no really big reason to focus on fixing it

    i’m not arguing either way on this specific case; i’d not heard about it until right now… but it’s pretty plausible from a software and security standpoint

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Not impossible, but I don't see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I'd still kill him regardless but I also wouldn't make any deal with slime like that to begin with.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'm guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    That would make sense if he wasn't arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn't going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you're already spilling the beans.

    But even if that's the case he's alive until he clears the dead drop because he'd still be a loose end.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I'm sure it was possible to swap Epstein out. I just don't think there was the motivation for it

    No one wants Epstein alive. The rich and powerful want to bury their crimes, normal people want retribution. The only motivator I can imagine would be a deadman switch, but even if Epstein were smuggled out, the rich and powerful would have dismantled any blackmail Epstein had by now and finished the job

    I see no path that still has Epstein alive at this point

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don't play ball they'll make sure it's painful?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    The only threat they needed to make was a return to general population.

    I seem to remember him being attacked by another inmate. Instead of being put into protective custody he was put on suicide watch, which is its own kind of hell.

    So, he changed his will to fuck over his victims, and is suddenly pulled off suicide watch.

    The only two people needed to then make sure Epstein was dead would be the warden probably Epstein's own lawyer. Maybe the psychiatrist who signed off on the removal from suicide watch... But the suicide watch wasn't initially justified, so pulling Epstein off it wouldn't seem strange.

    Hell, if you were a clever, high placed official in the DOJ, an example being Bill Barr, you could simply tell the warden to "put some pressure on the pedo" and then use the lawyer to deliver the real message of "kill yourself before we put you into the general population".

    Then you get a dead loose end and no record of illegal activity inside the prison. Also you only have to buy off a single person who likely already has questionable morals.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (9 children)

    Fun spin to put on "Epstein didn't kill himself" but also, you know, come on.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

    "None of the photos of him dead look dead" isn't a great choice as your very first point if you're trying to make a compelling argument.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I have added links. I'll add the other online account if I find it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago*

    No, not really. Substack is a blog hosting platform that pays it's subscribers - including straight up nazis. While there may be individual substack blogs with journalistic value (although I have never personally seen one) the platform itself is a problem, and much as with twitter, it is perfectly reasonable for me to be skeptical of the people that choose to remain on it.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it's not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it's not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It's not to make sure he can't testify because dead men also don't testify. So what would be the reason for keeping him alive and out of prison?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    She is. At least some of the time. Swapping Maxwell would be insane right? Well not really when she already has such a sick deal where she comes and goes every day. It's about as high risk for her as twins swapping places at school. If she's that important to Mossad she already has a body double.

    Her being alive this long used to really bother me after Epstein. His deadman switch never activated and she gets ignored then gets this wild deal while waiting for a pardon. Probably didn't want to wait until midterms for the pardon and started having a double fill in so she could travel.

    Yes I'm aware it sounds crazy but that deposition neither looks nor sounds like her 3 years ago and the response of releasing a bunch of b-roll footage of her is part of what sold me

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What's keeping Ghislaine in a vacation prison where she gets her own dog, and the warden her bitch? What's keeping all the American billionaires in the Epstein Files free from accountability? Stop trying to make sense of a world that has none.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    What’s keeping Ghislaine in a vacation prison where she gets her own dog, and the warden her bitch?

    There is no way she could die without the public overwhelmingly being angry about the situation, after what happened to Epstein. Therefore the best course for those in power is to placate her and give her the best conditions possible in exchange for her giving false testimony absolving them

    What’s keeping all the American billionaires in the Epstein Files free from accountability?

    The fact they're in power and able to quash investigations, and the public is generally too distracted by divisive politics like race and gender identity

    Don't give up understanding it so easily. You can make sense of it when you consider the motivations and limitations of the players involved

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