cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41402388

Please support the initiative of Stop Killing Games!

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[–] 42 points 1 year ago* (21 children)

Both are past 100k now! I want to issue a special "fuck you" to all the idiot streamers that tried to kill SKG. And of course a special "go fuck yourself" to PirateSoftware and Asmongold for being fuckwit right wing tools for corporations. You have a special place in my heart as illiterate lapdogs to shitty corporations and right wing shills.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Asmonpoop is a moronic bum and people went from "this weirdo is strangely entertaining" to " let me hear what my moronic hobo-idol has to say about this".

    It is a little bit like how people supported Drumpf as a joke first.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Pirate Software too.

    They're both such idiot trolls.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    PirateSoftware is what dumb people thinks a smart person acts like. His audience can't even pay attention unless he draws boxes in paint. I do understand how he can seem initially likeable, but if you watch him for more than a couple of hours you'll see his knowledge is shallower than a spilled glass of water.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Still in disbelief people think SKG is going to work. The premise fucking genocides the MMORPG genre. You kill games by implementing this horrible understanding of how games work.

    I have never seen more people support games who have no fucking idea how games work and it's the most frustrating shit ever. Pirate Software is right. It's not even a debate.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    It doesn't.

    It just requires that you provide a verson people can host themselves if you take your game offline.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    And if a company refuses? They're dead anyway. This is not well thought out and PS called it out. You have no actionable solution but are calling for one to just appear.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    If they refuse to make a totally reasonable addition to their game then yeah they can't publish it wow what a concept.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Lol so just kill all MMORPGs. Got it. You're so smart.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    I can literally play WOW private servers right now. I can host my own private server and play it single-player.

    What is being required is not complicated or difficult.

    If a developer wants to destroy their own project instead of taking the extra week of work it takes to let people locally host then that sounds like a really dumb decision.

    You're literally whining about nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Oh okay then just make private servers for "dead" games. It's just that easy. What's your problem then?

    You keep contradicting yourself and it's embarrassing

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, it's much more reasonable to make devs put the hosting oprions they use in the code of the game for others to use instead of a community having to reverse engineer the net code and build their own tool.

    Your contradictions are destroying your argument dude. This is why nobody takes you seriously.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol you not understanding why that can't happen is what's sending me. There are so many issues with just the PREMISE of this that you don't even address.

    At what point is a game considered dead? When is a company obligated to provide access? Will the company be legally obligated to release character profiles? If yes, how does one stop third parties from modifying it/cheating prior to hosting? If no, it's everyone expected to restart ion company death? How will this access be granted or hosted? How long will this need to be available for? Who pays to keep this information hosted for that duration?

    There are so many fucking questions unanswered because you seem to think you can just throw fucking LAN ports on a game and it just work. Your brain is stuck in 2004 where all you needed was an IP address and port number. Games aren't that simple anymore and the ones that are, already fucking have it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You not understanding the technology of game development has nothing to do with this fair ruling.

    Games used to always come with an option to play somehow by yourself offline.

    Sorry but this isn't a big issue, developers can do the bare minimum to make sure people are able to play a videogame they pay money for.

    You're gonna have to go find someone else to whine at about this now because I'm done engaging with you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    "Games used to have it but I'm going to ignore why they don't now and demand it be like it used to be"

    You're bitching about the evolution of games, demanding they return to suit your preference without explaining how.

    Congrats, you're old and out of touch. Or just dumb. I don't give a shit which, just stop spewing misinformation.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Hold on there buddy! There's no reason to be derogatory towards hobos like that. I don't think I've ever been quite so offended on the internet as to have someone associate my good (user)name with the likes of Asmongold. If you don't bring that down a notch I'm gonna send the ghost of Woody Guthrie to haunt you until your dying days.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They tried to kill it? Really? Like, “we must stop this from going forward!” In that way? Why would anyone attempt to stop it?

    I still think this is going to fail. But I’m not trying to stop it. I hope it succeeds.

    I also find the debate bros involved to be annoying.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yep they actively campaigned against the petition and fundamentally misrepresented it.

    10 months ago PirateSoftware started a campaign against it starting here-ish: https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y

    Also 10 months Asmongold did a react video that supported PirateSoftware: https://youtu.be/AhVsyhjcndw

    PirateSoftware refused to acknowledge that he got several things wrong, and even refused to acknowledge it when confronted. He actively bans people with dissenting opinions in his stream so it wasn't surprising that he refused to acknowledge that he was wrong. About a week ago Charlie (aka Penguinz0) confronted him about it and he still refused respond to basic factual inaccuracies: https://youtu.be/6sJpTCitKqw

    Ross did a video talking about the whole thing last week as well: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo

    There's a lot more to it, but that's the broad strokes. I hope PirateSoftware's stream keeps declining until he is relegated to complete obscurity. Also, PirateSoftware can eat my entire ass.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't like Asmon but my understanding is he supports SKG. Am I wrong?

    Also I saw a clip of SomeOrdinaryGamers, which indicated that he tempered his support with a dash of (wrong) both-sides-ism. But it was only a clip.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Asmongold does that. Like the dude doesn't have any real opinions other than what gets views. If he sees the winds changing he'll pull a 180 in order to take the heat off himself. He also has hoards of followers and youtube minions to make him seem far more centerist than he is. He's like the personification of the alt-right playbook for dummies.

    I mean watch/listen to The Alt-Right Playbook series and tell me this is not what he does on a daily basis: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know about PirateDouchebag, but I am not aware of Asmongold's issue.

    I apologize but, let's say that I've living under a rock

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Asmongold is a megaphone for shitty opinions. Like I posted elsewhere he'll change his opinion if he gets called out, but the damage was done when he put it on the megaphone in the first place. His take on the "never play defense" is to not have any actual opinions when confronted then just go right back to saying other right wing bullshit.

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