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[+] blarghly@lemmy.world -14 points 9 months ago (22 children)

Car rolls onto the sidewalk. Crushes a pedestrian.

Car had a baby in it. Baby dies.

Car belongs to beloved old man neighbor. Whole city now hates the train and gets it removed.

This suggestion keeps coming up, and it never gets less juvenile. The solution is simple - aggressively fine these people. Scale the fine based on income. If it sits there for more than a minute, call a tow truck to move it like an adult. And then install a knee high concrete barrier around the tracks to stop cars from getting there in the first place.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

If police cars can ram other vehicles, so can streetcars. The strawman nonsense you posted isn't a consideration for high-speed pit maneuvers by the former, and it would be even less relevant for gentle nudges by the latter.

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[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Idk these are flatly not comparable situations. A high speed chase ending in a pit maneuver is EXTREMELY dangerous before, during, after, and even around without being touched. A streetcar pushing a parked vehicle a handful of feet at low speed while ringing a warning bell with a driver keeping an eye on the situation is MUCH safer.

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

So you're saying you like cops?

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Cops have done all that shit, thousands of times, and no ones ripped them out by the roots.

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[–] huppakee@piefed.social 3 points 9 months ago

The solution is simple - aggressively fine these people. Scale the fine based on income. If it sits there for more than a minute, call a tow truck to move it like an adult.

They give them fines and might get the car towed, but most places they fail to make the fine an actual punishment if you are wealthy: fines should be based on income and wealth.

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

so you like cops?

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 18 points 9 months ago (15 children)

If someone leaves their baby in a car and parks it on the tracks, then it's their fucking fault if the baby dies. The parent/owner of the car should be charged with negligent infanticide in that case.

Also, no one who owns a tesla is "beloved."

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Yeah fick that baby. Fancy being left alone in a Tesla, useless child.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 9 months ago

I didn't say the baby is useless, I said it's the parent/owner of the car who's responsible. The tram driver isn't even gonna know there's a baby inside.

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

With a bloodthirsty absolutist mentality like that, have you considered a career in ICE?

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz -1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It's not bloodthirsty nor absolutist.

If a tram sees a car negligently parked on the tracks, it should plow through it. The tram operator isn't going to see if there's a baby inside. Whoever parked the car on the tracks and left the baby inside is responsible for their own negligence, and also a psychopath.

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Explain why the baby deserves to die because of their negligent parent.

Regardless of who we assign blame to, the important part is that if a train flips a car off its tracks, a baby in that car could die. So if we prioritize baby non-death, we can say that the train shouldnt be violently flipping cars off its tracks

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I didn't say they deserve to die. I only said their death is the parent's responsibility for leaving them in a car parked on the tracks.

If a parent leaves a baby in the woods, no one would be arguing about "maybe bears shouldn't eat babies!" They would be saying "Maybe you shouldn't leave your baby unattended in the woods!"

Leave a baby in the woods, it dies. Leave a baby on the train tracks, it dies. In both cases, it's the negligent parent's fault. Not the bear's or the train's.

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Your concept of right and wrong is clearly detached from reality

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

I find your insistence on excusing the irresponsible parent's neglectful behavior to be objectionable.

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[–] BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I like this "the street car operator will make a baby die if they have to push a blocking car out of the way" strawman you have here

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

Sure, but do you wanna be the driver that now has to deal with having killed a baby?

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The tram operator wouldn't even see that there's a baby inside.

The owner of the vehicle could petition the city's transportation authority and say "your tram killed my baby!" But as soon as the authority sees the details of the situation they should say "You parked a car on the tracks and left your baby in it?!? Dumbass." And stamp "DENIED" in big red letters.

Even if that person contacts a journalist, the headline should read "Dumbass tesla owner parks car on tracks and leaves baby inside. Baby dies."

There's no reason why the tram operator should ever have to find out there was a baby involved.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The tram operator would 100% find out. News exists. To argue otherwise it’s just unreasonable.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

News exists.

Oh really? I hadn't considered that when I mentioned what journalists should do in this case...

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

How does “what journalists should do” come into play in other situations? Journalists should also exclude shooters names and images from reporting, how does that go?

You’re going to all this trouble to explain how we can deal with killing a baby, without realizing the better option is to just not kill it in the first place.

I don’t think there’s any point continuing this discussion.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 9 months ago

You’re going to all this trouble to explain how we can deal with killing a baby, without realizing the better option is to just not kill it in the first place.

That's the strawman of strawmen. You're the one who inserted this hypothetical "What if there's a baby in the car" scenario. What I said was simply "that's the parent's responsibility for not only leaving the baby unattended in a vehicle, but also parking that vehicle on the tracks."

You've been trying this entire conversation to twist that into me being a baby-killer, when it was your own red herring from the start. All I said originally was that if someone parks their vehicle on the tracks, it should get run over.

I don’t think there’s any point continuing this discussion.

That's the one thing we agree on.

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