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[+] -6 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I'm no fan of American imperialism either but the regime in Iran is actively massacring their civilians on a scale never before seen during protests, I have Iranian friends and they know full well that America and Israel don't have their best interests at heart, and yet they still want them to intervene because they don't see any other way for change to happen. My Iranian friends don't even really like Reza Pahlavi but he's the most significant figure in these protests and so they're supporting him purely in solidarity with the people.

It's a very complicated and nuanced situation and it can't really be reduced to a meme like this without losing important context.

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  • [+] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (1 child)

    You're absolutely right that I have mixed feelings and am conflicted, I would love to say with 100% confidence that "Iran is different" but I can't.

    Part of the protestors anger is impoverishment caused by sanctions, it was certainly a big factor in this protest and at least a minor factor in every other protest.

    But conversely these protests are also fueled by discontent with the treatment of women.

    They're also fueled by the thirsty people who are suffering from poor water management policies that ignored traditional irrigation methods in favor of the western approach of spraying huge amounts into the air to grow water hungry crops in a famously water scarce region. Fuck even Israel was egging on the protestors with the promise of sending water experts once the regime is gone.

    I'm not supporting America invading but I do think that there are real humanitarian issues that need to be addressed.

    What upsets me most is not that the rest of the world is silent and only "brave and compassionate" America is speaking against them, its that the Iranian people only have America to turn to, that the only countries that are "on their side" (from the view of the public) are America and Israel.

    This regime is so quick to label any unrest in the country as foreign meddling but they themselves are the cause for half of the problems.

    (also thank you for engaging me in good faith)

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Nobody here is claiming that a US intervention would make things better, I think the point here that lying about the situation in Iran and Eastern Ukraine only helps the violent fascists in power in those places.

    The nuance is that workers are being slaughtered by Putin and Khamenei and defending them just because the US doesn't like them is only helping the fascists.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    "My Venezuelan friends are celebrating"

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Imagine having a nuanced opinion? Crazy

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    Nuance is when your opinions about other countries always coincidentally and conveniently line up with what the US government wants. Very nuanced, you incredible free thinker you.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Free thinking is when your opinions about other countries always coincentally and conviently line up with what NaZi Ruzzia wants.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Lol ah yes, the classic "me no nazi, me no nazi, you're the nazi" while the guys you support throw up seig heils.

    Like at a certain point, doesn't it get boring when your one and only move is projection, and shameful when you're not even good at that?

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    You're so right, Brussels and Kyiv are complete sieg heil fests every day.

    You've honestly got me there, believing Russian conspiracy theories would honestly be a lot more exciting than the boring real world.

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