The Democratic Party have been the only party to drive positive change in this country. Positive social change. Positive economic change. Positive international change. Are they perfect? No - there is no perfect system. Chasing perfection is a fools errand.
This is a delusional position. No one is asking for perfection. I'm asking for Hillary Clinton to not celebrate the sodomization of a septuagenarian head of state with a bayonet by gleefully shouting "We came! We saw! He died!"
I'm not asking for perfection. I'm asking for the crimes against humanity to stop.
You know what's not perfect? When politicians mortgage their oil futures and then oil prices collapse. That is so far from what I'm talking about it's ridiculous.
I can keep going. Can we stop training terrorists? How about drone striking weddings? How about drone striking the funerals for people who died at the weddings? Can we stop propping up dictators for money? How about funding the militarization of the police? No? Too far? How about honoring the 300+ treaties the US has unilaterally broken? No. Is that a "perfectionist" demand too?
To think that voting is the least powerful of Democratic expression is (I believe to be) an absurd statement. Local elections matter. Country elections matter. You’re not changing the system from the outside, a system that’s ran ~250 years
Yeah, and guess what. For 250 years it's been a genocidal, mass murdering, torturing, enslaving, white supremacist spreader of lies and violence. You absolutely ARE changing a system from the outside that's run for 250 years. That's LITERALLY how liberal democracies emerged from monarchies. It's how the US and its European empire collaborators have made every change in government around the world. Not through voting. You want to know what voting got us after 250 years? The largest most violent psychotic military in the world committing acts of genocide, mass war crimes, and mass crimes against humanity for literally 2 fucking centuries and absolutely ZERO justice for any of it. From the genocide of indigenous people to dropping over 2.5 million pounds of ordinance on Laos when we weren't even at war with them, to bombing literally every structure in Korea north of the 38th parallel and then dropping so much napalm that people needed to live in caves to torturing prisoners all over the world in CIA black sites to funding, arming, and providing logistics support for the genocide of Palestinians. That's voting for you.
The only change to the U.S. system so that the least amount of people die should have come from within.
It will. But it won't come from voting.
Also, If they’re all fascists, and we literally have a choice between the fascist who at least has a backing party history of social and economic growth vs one whose going to try to become a defacto ruler; the choice should have been obvious.
The choice should be obvious, but apparently it's not. You don't fucking support the fascists who are willing to take up the PR role of "good cop". If you're in the precinct, and there's a good cop and a bad cop interrogating you, you don't side with the good cop, no matter how he bandages your wounds or keeps you well fed, or even gets some help for your family.
Then we are ultimately fucked. Corporate internet is programming masses due to being absolutely unregulated.
No. It's not. That's white supremacy. You're making a fundamental error in attribution. The problem is the EuroCentric white supremacist capitalist patriarchy. Everything else stems from the rotten core. The propaganda. The distractions. The infighting. All of it. There is only one way out and that is to band together and fight ALL of the fascists, not spend our energy making alliances with the good cop.
There’s no change, no movement without leadership and organization. Between the 2 parties, the better leadership comes from the Democratic Party
Oh come on. You can't be serious right now! ALL of the evidence is against this claim. The Democrats have NO fucking effective leadership. They spent 40 years of leadership not codifying Roe into law so they could campaign on it. They keep nominating candidates that have been proven to lose. They rat fuck their own people. They believe there should be a strong Republican party. They are millionaires, they work for billionaires, and they have achieved so precious little, and nearly everything they have achieved has been structured to enrich the white supremacist genocidal psychotic capitalist patriarchy. Not ONCE have the Democrats stopped the mass killings. Not ONCE have the Democrats dropped the prison or parole population. Not ONCE have the Democrats reduced the funding to the military. They do not have better leadership. They have better PR for people like you.
Until a 3rd party finds leadership, finds the organization to make the push for change, then they are it. Hopefully the future has that
You don't get it. The Ds and Rs collaborate. They eat dinner together. They vacation together. Their kids go to same schools. They studied with the same professor. They rape people at the same island. They get their drugs from the same sources. They take bribes from the same brokers. They literally co-own the organization that runs televised debates. They work together to stop every possible third party. It's not a question of 3rd party leadership, it's a question of fascist dominance. You don't vote fascists out of office. It's never worked.
but the past election was between what we’re seeing now and what could have been.
Kamala had no plan to prevent any of this. If she had won, the BEST case scenario is that it would have delayed this chaos by 4 years. But the reality is that by the end of 2028, the economy will be destroyed regardless of who is in office. And the chaos would be on us anyway. Maybe Kamala would have fully invaded Venezuela or Iran in her first year. I have no doubt that ICE would have gotten the same funding (Kamala: "Don't come."). I do have doubts that they would be as openly brutal as they're being now. But we don't actually know. Kamala was no friend of immigrants and I could easily see her enforcing brutally. Especially since Tom Homan, the White House Border Czar, was an OBAMA appointee. (See how it's bi-partisan).
No. The past election was not between what we're seeing now and what could have been. It was between a small portion of what we're seeing now and a different expression of the same fundamental contradictions. The country is still a psychotic white supremacist misogynist racist patriarchal shit hole. Maybe Kamala's alternate universe would have seen Proud Boys and Bugaloo and Oathkeepers activate further and drive the same or worse chaos than we're seeing now.
You gotta open your scope up. It's not enough to want nicer rhetoric or gentler policing. It's not. The Ds and the Rs are equally bloodthirsty on the global stage. They're equally extractive. They're equally rapacious. They administer the same system and that system does the same things regardless of who is in office. Again, I'll point you to the list of 7 countries (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan) the GWB administration listed as targets for invasion and how Obama participated in continuity of that program. I'll point you to Ruth Bader Ginsberg writing the majority opinion for the Supreme Court that US's fundamental claim of existence stems from the Doctrine of Discovery - a religious document from the Catholic pope that justified rape, genocide, and enslavement of anyone that wasn't European anywhere in the world.
Obama kept Gitmo open. Biden kept the genocide in Gaza going. They all increased the military budget. They all increased police budgets. They all imprisoned whistleblowers. They all assassinated resistance organizers in South America. They all trained terrorists in West Asia and in South America. They all brutalized indigenous people here at home. They all poisoned the Earth irreparably. They all forced their trading partners in subjugation. They all protected massive criminals. They all spread lies. They all militarized the domestic police to prepare for "disturbances". They literally created the conditions that we find ourselves in. They all KNEW IT too. They literally talked about Trump being bad, and we watched them do absolutely fucking nothing about it except blame voters for failing to vote enough.
Wake up, Mort. Shed the lie. The good cop is not here to help you. The good cop will not make it better.