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[–] 127 points 9 months ago (21 children)

Turns out that the definition of people in those two prompts didn’t change, it’s just different. In 2020 they meant people=me, now it’s people=them

They’ve know all along that they were facsist

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (19 children)

    Well, only kinda. They don't actually know what the word "fascist" means.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    They also don't understand what liberal means, which means individual freedom, freedom of speech, private ownership and trial by jury, and basically the opposite of marxism or communism

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Apart from private ownership how are the rest antithetical to Marxism or communism?

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is just nonsense. Did an AI write it for you?

    The USSR, and all the weird parallels to it that your AI write up has included, was not communism.

    Maybe you shouldn't mock people's understanding of things when you yourself clearly don't understand.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    That's a whole lot of bullshit to tell me you've never read Marx.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's not marxist, but it describes leninism to a T. And most tankies tend to be ML, not marxist.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That is correct but he didn't mention Lenin at all, and tried to conflate Lenin with both Marx and Communism as a whole. Personally I blame Lenin for the failure of the executive branch to properly set up the soviets as democratically elected councils, rather than a supreme dictator. I also blame Lenin for Stalin.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    tried to conflate Lenin with both Marx and Communism

    Leninists do that already by calling themselves "Marxist-leninists." And Lenin himself conflated his personal ideology with communism as a whole when he killed all the communists who weren't on board with him.

    Marx shouldn't even be a taboo subject, but he is, purely because of how Lenin commandeered and corrupted the entire evolution of the ideas Marx first laid out. Plenty of countries had communist parties before the bolshevik revolution; afterwards, the entire west looked and said "those people are fucking crazy, I don't want them doing that here."

    I'd love to be able to sit down and have an intellectual discussion on the virtues of Marx's theories, but if I bring it up anywhere I'll get one of two reactions: either I'll be labeled as a communist, get put on a watch list, and get chased out of town, or I'll wind up listening to a tankie rant for hours about how I'm not radical enough and that if I don't support the bolsheviks that I must be a fascist.

    There's no fucking middle-ground, no room for nuance, and Marxism itself is barely more than a historical artifact. An interest piece on an ideal that never came to be, and now is far more widely known for being something else which didn't come until decades later.

    Far better to just talk about Merleau-Ponty. At least then anyone who's heard of him is at least somewhat educated...

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Of course it's AI (it should be obvious).. why would i spend time and effort trying to explain on a heavily marxist internet forum?

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    Never believe that anti‐ Semites fascists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti‐Semites fascists have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.

    • Jean-Paul Sartre

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    I like how you provided an educated and accurate take, and everyone downvotes you because they don't want to say they agree with the "communist view."

    I will say, however, that it's not exactly Marxism, but rather Leninism (often called Marxist-Leninism) that you describe.

    So people do somewhat have a point, if somewhat pedantic and merely semantic.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    In 2015, it was people=them during the Jade Helm Scare. Abbott was so convinced in the Russian propaganda that he sent the national guard to watch a military exercise. He was convinced that Obama had shuddered several walmarts, emptied them, and was going to use the army to imprison them in said Walmarts. The russians even came up with blueprints for the Walmart prisons.

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