Mrs and I tried lab grown fois gras quail, apparently the first in Australia. Amazing to be able to buy this in a restaurant, after hearing about it year after year.

It was certainly meaty, a flavour you simply don't get with any meat-free chicken, really pungent and distinct (not that I've ever had dead quail).

A place called Bottarga in Brighton, Melbourne. Wasn't cheap, but I'd pay top dollar to support the transition.

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[–] 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I’ve always been curious on the vegan perspective on lab grown meat. I’m sure it’s not a monolith but is there a general consensus?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Social level opinion: While I hope it is successful in making cruelty free living more accessible, I hate what lab grown meat represents, and I hate the idea that human beings are so self-centered that the only way they would give up meat as if someone else made an exactly perfect replication of it. I also unfortunately do not think it’s going to succeed, because even today if you served somebody a bunch of different burgers made from different animal meats, and in there you also included a beyond burger, I doubt that person could identify which one was vegan, unless they are some kind of meat connoisseur. So why wouldn’t I expect people to just convince themselves that whatever imperfections are going to be in the lab grown meat are a dealbreaker?

    Practical personal level opinion: I wouldn’t have a problem with lab grown burgers, hot dogs, and most sausages. To me these are basically just “processed protein tubes and patties”. And if that’s what the party was grilling then i won’t complain. But I also think that if I’m at the grocery store and that’s what I want to eat that week, I’m really just gonna care about the sustainability and the price to quality ratio more than anything. Now if it’s just a cut of meat on the other hand with gristle, connective tissue, a grain, that just skeeves me out. But I wouldn’t say it offends my morals or anything, just seems kind of grotesquely self-indulgent and offputting

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I am vegan for the health benefits: avoiding colon cancer, avoiding type 2 diabetes, improved cholesterol , reducing visceral fat, avoiding overeating, longer healthier life, etc.

    Not contributing to animal cruelty is a bonus but not my motivation so lab grown meat isn’t going to change the way I eat.

    If it becomes efficient enough to reduce greenhouse emissions then that would be the only benefit I would get from it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I'm not personally interested in eating it. Just not appealing to me (and, I'm deathly allergic to seafood besides, which lab grown fish is still a problem there).

    But I'm happy it exists, and hope it is environmentally friendly/cost effective enough to save animals, and improve the environment.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I think the general consensus would be: As long as you don't need to keep exploiting animals to get the stuff to make the lab grow meat out of, it is considered vegan.

    However, a lot of vegans still say they would not eat it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I made watermelon tuna sashimi for a meetup and most of the vegans were repulsed because it was so meaty.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How do you make watermelon meaty?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    1. Cut it into big "steaks"
    2. Make a marinade of soy sauce, nori strips and seasame oil
    3. Put them both in a container, fully submerged (ziplock works well) and refrigerate for a few hours
    4. Pull the watermelon out and put it in the oven on a rack at a low temp for like 30-45 minutes

    It comes out and looks just like a raw tuna steak. Cut it into sashimi style slices and put on it on sushi rice with a small wipe of wasabi. If your watermelon was too sweet it'll come through in the end product. It's uncanny in the texture and flavor.

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  • I avoid meat/dairy to help the environment, prevent animal cruelty, and improve my health (specifically cholesterol).

    I suspect lab-grown meat helps the environment and prevents animal cruelty, but it’s still really dangerous for me to eat, so I still wouldn’t touch it. Seems like a net positive for the world, though.

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