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All Games Are Going Somewhere or Cleaning Something (media.piefed.zip)
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Title is a reference to a recent Semi-Ramblomatic video by Yahtzee.

(post 1) ever notice how men critize games like animal crossing and stardew valley on the basis of "the entire game is just doing tasks" without recognizing that "kill bad guy" is also just a task but violent? (Post 2, Same User) "It's so boring all you do is talk to people and do tasks so you can buy new things" yeah and all y ou do is press a bunch of buttons to kill people so you can buy new things? perish (Post 3, same user) My activity page has not known peace since I made this post I have hundreds of insufferable gamers crawling up my pant legs now but luckily I have a secret up my sleeve... I too am a gamer man. I'm immune to the gamer venom. (Post 4, new user) This has the same energy as that post that's "Red Dead Redemption is just Barbie's Horse Adventure with Violence."
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[–] 16 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Why even make this about gender at all?

It's kind of insulting to men who like games like stardew valley and animal crossing. What, are we not man enough because we don't fill our free time with simulated blood and gore?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    They don't say all men don't appreciate SDV/AC (the tumblr user says he's a guy). But it's basically only men that criticize cozy games.

    I think he was ragebaiting tbh

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Imagine the same phrasing used to describe something "some" women do...

    "Ever notice how women..."

    Notice how it's suddenly not okay? So what's different about it when it's phrased the same way about "men"?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Eh, depends on the subject matter. Some things definitely have trends that divided down gender lines, and it's not sexist to point this out. Men trend towards violence, women trend towards relational and social dynamics. The raw numbers back this up, but there are exceptions (obviously).

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Noticing trends is one thing, overgeneralizing is another matter. This is an overgeneralization and it's harmful because it reinforces traits of toxic masculinity. "If you're not violent then you're effeminate" is not the message we should be sending.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    This isn't incorrect. I just tend to disassociate when I see blanket statements about men because I usually don't fit the description.

    It's good to be vigilant about this stuff but I'm pretty sure this tumblr user is mostly shitposting, and it's clearly against toxic masculinity. I mean the distilled message of the post is "we are all the same".

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Excusing overgeneralizations when they're applied to men? That's typical...

    I guarantee you would feel different if someone was overgeneralizing about women. Do they just need to grow thicker skin, or is it only men who are supposed to be stoics?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Like I said above, I agree with you. A similar statement about women would be correctly seen as mysogyny. I'm just stating that it isn't any more egregious than gestures broadly

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    There's a lot of egregious stuff going on, but I don't think stooping to the level of egregiousness and turning the same bullshit around on anyone who seems like a convenient target is a tenable solution. That's letting the egregiousness win.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It's double standards

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    Usually whenever I call out double standards in gender stereotypes, I get some pseudo-feminist responding with something to the effect of "lol chud red pilled 'not all men!' lmao. Historical oppression! Suffragettes! Treating men with basic dignity is patriarchy! Demanding a bare minimum of respect is chauvinism!"

    and quite frankly it really gets old...

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