A masked guy breaks down your door w/o an Article III warrant absent exigent circumstances? Yeah, I'd agree. Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

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[–] 79 points 9 months ago (19 children)

The problem is, if you fire at a kidnapper who breaks down your door they will call back up and they aren’t going to stop until you’re dead.

Fuck ICE.

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  • [–] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    If they're kicking down my door, I'm fucked either way. Might as well try to take a few with me and make them more hesitant with the next house.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    When they kick down your front door, how you gonna come? With the hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun. When the law breaks in, how you gonna go, shot down on the pavement or waiting in death row? You can crush us, you can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton The money feels good And your life you like it well But surely your time will come As in Heaven as in Hell You see, he feels like Ivan Born under the Brixton sun His game is called survivin' At the end of the harder they come You know it means no mercy They caught him with a gun No need for the Black Maria Goodbye to the Brixton sun You can crush us, you can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun You can crush us, you can bruise us And even shoot us But oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Shot down on the pavement Waiting in death row His game was survivin' As in Heaven as in Hell You can crush us, you can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton

    They believe they can crush us with this overwhelming brutality. But Nope. We will be like the Irish... never giving up and blowing those mfers up strategically and unendingly. We will not submit.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Don't let them choose the battlefield. In your home you should prioritize escaping above all else.

    Anyone who wants to fight back effectively will HAVE to take the fight to them.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Which should be easy enough - just dress as they do - do we have any latent serial killers around? Because this would be a nice chance for them to start racking up kills. Dress up as ICE, kill some ICE goons, then calmly walk away because not even other ICE can tell you aren't one of them. Some folks might blow whistles and boo you, that's about the end of the consequences. If you turn up on security footage - well, no, you really didn't. ICE did.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    Sounds like a problem solved with stockpiling more ammo.

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