▲ 32 ▼ Don't vote for BlueMAGA this fall (lemmy.ml) submitted 9 months ago by jackeroni@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -6 points 9 months ago (9 children) Not voting against them still gives them ground for no benefit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago Plenty of 3rd parties and independents at all levels. That’s just not voting but with extra steps. So what is it now? Voting against them does nothing, or voting against them is important? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -8 points 9 months ago (7 children) Pretending that they're the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can't even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -7 points 9 months ago (5 children) You should show that to Renee Good's family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -6 points 9 months ago (9 children) Not voting against them still gives them ground for no benefit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago Plenty of 3rd parties and independents at all levels. That’s just not voting but with extra steps. So what is it now? Voting against them does nothing, or voting against them is important? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -8 points 9 months ago (7 children) Pretending that they're the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can't even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -7 points 9 months ago (5 children) You should show that to Renee Good's family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] m532@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago Plenty of 3rd parties and independents at all levels. That’s just not voting but with extra steps. So what is it now? Voting against them does nothing, or voting against them is important? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -8 points 9 months ago (7 children) Pretending that they're the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can't even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -7 points 9 months ago (5 children) You should show that to Renee Good's family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent
[+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -8 points 9 months ago (7 children) Pretending that they're the same is just as delusional as pretending the Democrats are good. I agree that we have to get organized, but if we can't even fucking vote then actual organization is a pipedream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -7 points 9 months ago (5 children) You should show that to Renee Good's family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) Pretending that they’re the same is just as delusional permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -7 points 9 months ago (5 children) You should show that to Renee Good's family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent
[+] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -7 points 9 months ago (5 children) You should show that to Renee Good's family, or maybe one of the thousands of people in a brand new concentration camp instead of with their families like they were 2 years ago. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) Or maybe try telling it to all the people of color shot by cops from 2020-2024, or the kids in cages that never went away when a Democrat was elected president but just silently forgotten about and suddenly ignored by the same media that had been using them for cheap political points during election season, or the thousands of people in NOT brand-new concentration camps but the ones that have existed the whole fucking time. Or are you saying that none of that shit mattered then since your blue team was in the big boy chair, but only matters now that a cheeto is office and it was a white person that got executed by the bipartisan fascists this time? Despicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Of course I was outraged that that was all happening under Democrats. You might notice I haven't been praising them. Just because they're both awful, doesn't mean that one of them isn't worse. Pointing out "but hey, blue team bad too" doesn't contradict that. Failing to vote against Republicans is just giving them ground. In 2024 we gave them ground and they built brand new concentration camps on it. Are you not outraged at that? Do you not wish that could have been avoided? I'm all for organization. It is quite literally the only path to positive change here. But that doesn't mean we can stop voting. We have to do both. If you really do genuinely believe that they're both the same, then why even bring up the idea of voting? Why spend time, effort and attention convincing people to reduce their civic engagement instead of convincing them to increase their civic engagement? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] m532@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago Concentration camp funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] m532@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* Gestapo funding is bipartisan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* Brand new concentration camp Oh that's right, we just started calling them that again now that the Democrats aren't in charge anymore. What were you calling them before, again? Ah right, "temporary migrant holding facilities." Pictured: the peaceful halcyon days of democratic governance permalink fedilink source parent
