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Greenland says it should be defended by NATO, rejects any US takeover (www.reuters.com)
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[–] 31 points 10 months ago* (12 children)

Funny that people say it would dissolve. NATO should stay intact after the US invasion. The alliance would just kick the US out.

Personally the UN should kick the United States out if they do invade. Then the UN needs to unite against the rogue United States. Sell all bonds and move their currency base. Wouldn't be pretty, but fighting the United States with conventional weapons won't end well. Crushing our economy and cutting trade is the real weapons that should be used.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    It seems like there is no mechanism to kick a country out like that. What's more likely is that NATO will be de facto dissolved immediately, but this doesn't stop allied countries from working together anyway. If the Trump administration thinks that NATO is the only thing holding alliances together, I think they will be uncomfortably surprised.

    Personally I think the real decision makers in the Trump administration actually want war, or at the very least don't care if they get it. We should just cut them off from everything. Make them react. I'm sick of playing the game. Just shit or get off the pot.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What's the difference between kicking a country out of NATO vs all the other countries just saying, ok NATO2, same members minus one?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    If NATO was dissolved, Europe would get rid of all those US bases on European soil (Italy alone has 9 US bases, IIRC). That would be fun.

    But still, I wish the US would get rid of Trump instead.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I believe the good Americans will overcome. I love seeing pissed off Americans showing up to the fight in increasing numbers. I think too many of them still believe that the midterms are going to save them, or that they can rely on legal or democratic systems that have been systematically undermined.

    But I see that the Trump administration does not make any decisions to try and grow their support at all. They are moving too fast and too aggressively, probably because they need to destroy the democratic institutions in less than 2 years, so they are pulling out all the stops. They learned from the first term and they believe they have to move faster but that speed is also working against them, because it doesn't allow breathing space during which the electorate can be propagandized and during which they can forget. If they move fast their opposition will learn to move fast as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Crushing our economy and cutting trade is the real weapons that should be used

    Just stop trade, we don't make anything here we use directly. If we do try to make things here, you end up with smarter every day's $100 grill scraper.

    In a couple of weeks target/walmart will be empty

    immediately all fruit/veggies in the winter will increase in price 10 fold.

    We're already on the edge of a recession.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think an issue with that is that there isn't a mechanism for kicking a country out; the US would have to choose to leave. So more likely the allied nations would have to reform a new agreement which has its own red tape.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Technically yes. A lot of international coalitions are built without mechanism to exclude anyone and that's why Russia still has a seat on UN security council. With NATO that would be somewhat simple at least on agreement level, just have everyone to join NATOv2 and resign from current NATO and continue work without US. In practise it's obviously "a bit" more complicated to arrange command and supply chains and whatever, but it's still absolutely doable if member countries really want to.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    The alliance would just kick the US out.

    The alliance was created to guarantee US hegemony over Europe. It's predicated on dozens of US bases, US administered logistics routes, US contractors, US arms dealers, US surveillance.

    You can't remove the US any more than you can tear out your own heart.

    Europe will need to completely retrofit how it handles internal security. And - especially after Brexit - I just don't see the necessary level of cohesion between the members, absent a totalitarian hegemon like the Americans forcing Europeans together.

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