▲ 702 ▼ ‘Cancel your tickets’: Calls grow to boycott US-hosted FIFA World Cup over Trump admin (www.rawstory.com) submitted 10 months ago by streetfestival@lemmy.ca to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca 86 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (7 children) Pointless until the nations boycott. permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (3 children) Seems like the players need to boycott. Why the fuck are they willing to come here? I understand "contracts" but they could just not play or play horribly. Many players boycotted the Olympics in Germany, the players of the WC should do the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (2 children) Why the fuck are they willing to come here? Because, contrary to public/fan perception, most top level footballers are not at all principled when there's large amounts of money and prestige on the line. Plus the whole "team sport" thing has the downside of peer pressure from other players being a real factor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguette@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I remember Virgil van Dijk defending going to Qatar saying something along the line of that there are only a few chances in his career to play at such a tournament. So he allowed himself to neglect all moral questions on selfish reasons. Later when asked why he wouldn't wear the One World-band is that if he was awarded a yellow card he could risk a game and he couldn't let his team down and claimed that would've been selfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, I've long since learned to embrace hypocrisy when it comes to football fandom lol. I can't stop myself from loving the club and how great most of the players are on the pitch, but apart from weaksauce excuses like this one, three of my favorite Liverpool players (including the one I had previously thought of as the most unselfish "it's all about the collective over personal wealth and glory" player, Firmino) went to fucking SAUDI ARABIA at a time in their careers where they were only BARELY past their prime and could still be a key player for almost any team in the world. Add to that the fact that there's at least one Bolsonaro voter and at least one Orban voter in the team as well and I pretty much HAVE to compartmentalize to maintain my own sanity as a fan of the YNWA club for over 30 years 😮💨 permalink fedilink source parent [–] atro_city@fedia.io 19 points 10 months ago If lots of people cancel their tickets, post pictures of cancelled tickets or stickers and apparel saying "no fascist world cup", and social media is flooded with it, nations are much more likely to pull out. Stop being such a negative Nancy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 13 points 10 months ago People can only do what is in their power to do. It’s a case of ‘if you don’t like what’s going on, don’t engage’. I’ve boycotted watching the last WC and I’ll boycott watching this too. Will it make a difference? Probably not, not while the majority whinge and fold, but I’m not whining that there was nothing I could do. I have a lot of respect for people handing in their tickets, at best that’s a shitload of planning and organisation they’ve burned to do the right thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago Its certainly not pointless. Every lost dollar every lost ratings point makes a difference. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago (3 children) Seems like the players need to boycott. Why the fuck are they willing to come here? I understand "contracts" but they could just not play or play horribly. Many players boycotted the Olympics in Germany, the players of the WC should do the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (2 children) Why the fuck are they willing to come here? Because, contrary to public/fan perception, most top level footballers are not at all principled when there's large amounts of money and prestige on the line. Plus the whole "team sport" thing has the downside of peer pressure from other players being a real factor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguette@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I remember Virgil van Dijk defending going to Qatar saying something along the line of that there are only a few chances in his career to play at such a tournament. So he allowed himself to neglect all moral questions on selfish reasons. Later when asked why he wouldn't wear the One World-band is that if he was awarded a yellow card he could risk a game and he couldn't let his team down and claimed that would've been selfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, I've long since learned to embrace hypocrisy when it comes to football fandom lol. I can't stop myself from loving the club and how great most of the players are on the pitch, but apart from weaksauce excuses like this one, three of my favorite Liverpool players (including the one I had previously thought of as the most unselfish "it's all about the collective over personal wealth and glory" player, Firmino) went to fucking SAUDI ARABIA at a time in their careers where they were only BARELY past their prime and could still be a key player for almost any team in the world. Add to that the fact that there's at least one Bolsonaro voter and at least one Orban voter in the team as well and I pretty much HAVE to compartmentalize to maintain my own sanity as a fan of the YNWA club for over 30 years 😮💨 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (2 children) Why the fuck are they willing to come here? Because, contrary to public/fan perception, most top level footballers are not at all principled when there's large amounts of money and prestige on the line. Plus the whole "team sport" thing has the downside of peer pressure from other players being a real factor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] baguette@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I remember Virgil van Dijk defending going to Qatar saying something along the line of that there are only a few chances in his career to play at such a tournament. So he allowed himself to neglect all moral questions on selfish reasons. Later when asked why he wouldn't wear the One World-band is that if he was awarded a yellow card he could risk a game and he couldn't let his team down and claimed that would've been selfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, I've long since learned to embrace hypocrisy when it comes to football fandom lol. I can't stop myself from loving the club and how great most of the players are on the pitch, but apart from weaksauce excuses like this one, three of my favorite Liverpool players (including the one I had previously thought of as the most unselfish "it's all about the collective over personal wealth and glory" player, Firmino) went to fucking SAUDI ARABIA at a time in their careers where they were only BARELY past their prime and could still be a key player for almost any team in the world. Add to that the fact that there's at least one Bolsonaro voter and at least one Orban voter in the team as well and I pretty much HAVE to compartmentalize to maintain my own sanity as a fan of the YNWA club for over 30 years 😮💨 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baguette@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I remember Virgil van Dijk defending going to Qatar saying something along the line of that there are only a few chances in his career to play at such a tournament. So he allowed himself to neglect all moral questions on selfish reasons. Later when asked why he wouldn't wear the One World-band is that if he was awarded a yellow card he could risk a game and he couldn't let his team down and claimed that would've been selfish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, I've long since learned to embrace hypocrisy when it comes to football fandom lol. I can't stop myself from loving the club and how great most of the players are on the pitch, but apart from weaksauce excuses like this one, three of my favorite Liverpool players (including the one I had previously thought of as the most unselfish "it's all about the collective over personal wealth and glory" player, Firmino) went to fucking SAUDI ARABIA at a time in their careers where they were only BARELY past their prime and could still be a key player for almost any team in the world. Add to that the fact that there's at least one Bolsonaro voter and at least one Orban voter in the team as well and I pretty much HAVE to compartmentalize to maintain my own sanity as a fan of the YNWA club for over 30 years 😮💨 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Yeah, I've long since learned to embrace hypocrisy when it comes to football fandom lol. I can't stop myself from loving the club and how great most of the players are on the pitch, but apart from weaksauce excuses like this one, three of my favorite Liverpool players (including the one I had previously thought of as the most unselfish "it's all about the collective over personal wealth and glory" player, Firmino) went to fucking SAUDI ARABIA at a time in their careers where they were only BARELY past their prime and could still be a key player for almost any team in the world. Add to that the fact that there's at least one Bolsonaro voter and at least one Orban voter in the team as well and I pretty much HAVE to compartmentalize to maintain my own sanity as a fan of the YNWA club for over 30 years 😮💨 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 19 points 10 months ago If lots of people cancel their tickets, post pictures of cancelled tickets or stickers and apparel saying "no fascist world cup", and social media is flooded with it, nations are much more likely to pull out. Stop being such a negative Nancy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 13 points 10 months ago People can only do what is in their power to do. It’s a case of ‘if you don’t like what’s going on, don’t engage’. I’ve boycotted watching the last WC and I’ll boycott watching this too. Will it make a difference? Probably not, not while the majority whinge and fold, but I’m not whining that there was nothing I could do. I have a lot of respect for people handing in their tickets, at best that’s a shitload of planning and organisation they’ve burned to do the right thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago Its certainly not pointless. Every lost dollar every lost ratings point makes a difference. permalink fedilink source parent