▲ 822 ▼ History will not be kind to the USA (crazypeople.online) submitted 10 months ago by hamid@crazypeople.online to c/memes@lemmy.ml 207 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (6 children) there's a STRONG trend of black and brown social media influencers warning people not to get involved if they have too much melanin for american standards and learning about the black panthers and the night of the long knives (coupled with my anecdotal experiences with white-passing family members) makes me think that they're right. some small part of me hopes that my contributions to the greens and psl are so long ago that that i'm no longer on their rosters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, the Black Panthers murdered by the state are heroes in my eyes, ya know? That seems like a strange argument. As bleak as it is to mention, I feel I must point out that having only the fear of future violence while others must face violence presently is a privilege. The good thing is that getting involved in organizing is also a privilege, the other side of the coin I guess you could say. Way I think about it, you're gonna live with the fear of state violence already, so the fear from organizing is marginal, possibly negligible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’d rather be alive than be your hero. Black and brown people in the US already face violence without voluntarily painting targets on their backs. If people want to stick their necks out, good for them. But it’s kinda ballsy to try to shame black and brown people in the current USA for avoiding violence from some “place of privilege “ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Alright. Privilege is still relative. Being defensive is not going to change that. The fear of "sticking your neck out" is still very individualistic thinking. The goal is to learn and organize so WE can stick our necks out together. My lionizing of former martyrs is not an attempt to shame you. I still think that "don't be like the people who actually induced change because they were martyred" is a terrible take. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago If that day comes, do you really think that the absence of your name on a roster is going to stop them? Obedience in advance only teaches authority what it can get away with. The capabilities of authority generally are much less far-reaching than what they lead us to believe. Oppression breeds resistance and struggle, whereas the state would have us believe in the fantasy of unilateral control and suppression of dissent. You owe it to yourself to study revolutionary history beyond just the most shocking events that scare you away from organizing. In the words of the late assata shakur; It is our duty to fight. It is our duty to win. We must love each other and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) thanks, but don't be; i'm convinced that i would be yet another liberal doomscrolling my life away, embittering myself further by the day because of the deep ignorance from the western propaganda like it is for some of my siblings/cousins/nephews/neices who turn to alcohol, drugs and other self destructive coping mechanisms. i'm convinced that my dark skin; my queerness; and my nuero-divergence have forced me to develop tools that have proven themselves useful in thwarting the asshattery that life in this late stage capitalist world throws at me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago Not the indomitable spirit; simply A LOT of ass artificially bouying my spirits. Lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (6 children) there's a STRONG trend of black and brown social media influencers warning people not to get involved if they have too much melanin for american standards and learning about the black panthers and the night of the long knives (coupled with my anecdotal experiences with white-passing family members) makes me think that they're right. some small part of me hopes that my contributions to the greens and psl are so long ago that that i'm no longer on their rosters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, the Black Panthers murdered by the state are heroes in my eyes, ya know? That seems like a strange argument. As bleak as it is to mention, I feel I must point out that having only the fear of future violence while others must face violence presently is a privilege. The good thing is that getting involved in organizing is also a privilege, the other side of the coin I guess you could say. Way I think about it, you're gonna live with the fear of state violence already, so the fear from organizing is marginal, possibly negligible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’d rather be alive than be your hero. Black and brown people in the US already face violence without voluntarily painting targets on their backs. If people want to stick their necks out, good for them. But it’s kinda ballsy to try to shame black and brown people in the current USA for avoiding violence from some “place of privilege “ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Alright. Privilege is still relative. Being defensive is not going to change that. The fear of "sticking your neck out" is still very individualistic thinking. The goal is to learn and organize so WE can stick our necks out together. My lionizing of former martyrs is not an attempt to shame you. I still think that "don't be like the people who actually induced change because they were martyred" is a terrible take. permalink fedilink source parent [–] causepix@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago If that day comes, do you really think that the absence of your name on a roster is going to stop them? Obedience in advance only teaches authority what it can get away with. The capabilities of authority generally are much less far-reaching than what they lead us to believe. Oppression breeds resistance and struggle, whereas the state would have us believe in the fantasy of unilateral control and suppression of dissent. You owe it to yourself to study revolutionary history beyond just the most shocking events that scare you away from organizing. In the words of the late assata shakur; It is our duty to fight. It is our duty to win. We must love each other and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) thanks, but don't be; i'm convinced that i would be yet another liberal doomscrolling my life away, embittering myself further by the day because of the deep ignorance from the western propaganda like it is for some of my siblings/cousins/nephews/neices who turn to alcohol, drugs and other self destructive coping mechanisms. i'm convinced that my dark skin; my queerness; and my nuero-divergence have forced me to develop tools that have proven themselves useful in thwarting the asshattery that life in this late stage capitalist world throws at me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago Not the indomitable spirit; simply A LOT of ass artificially bouying my spirits. Lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I mean, the Black Panthers murdered by the state are heroes in my eyes, ya know? That seems like a strange argument. As bleak as it is to mention, I feel I must point out that having only the fear of future violence while others must face violence presently is a privilege. The good thing is that getting involved in organizing is also a privilege, the other side of the coin I guess you could say. Way I think about it, you're gonna live with the fear of state violence already, so the fear from organizing is marginal, possibly negligible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’d rather be alive than be your hero. Black and brown people in the US already face violence without voluntarily painting targets on their backs. If people want to stick their necks out, good for them. But it’s kinda ballsy to try to shame black and brown people in the current USA for avoiding violence from some “place of privilege “ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Alright. Privilege is still relative. Being defensive is not going to change that. The fear of "sticking your neck out" is still very individualistic thinking. The goal is to learn and organize so WE can stick our necks out together. My lionizing of former martyrs is not an attempt to shame you. I still think that "don't be like the people who actually induced change because they were martyred" is a terrible take. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I’d rather be alive than be your hero. Black and brown people in the US already face violence without voluntarily painting targets on their backs. If people want to stick their necks out, good for them. But it’s kinda ballsy to try to shame black and brown people in the current USA for avoiding violence from some “place of privilege “ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Alright. Privilege is still relative. Being defensive is not going to change that. The fear of "sticking your neck out" is still very individualistic thinking. The goal is to learn and organize so WE can stick our necks out together. My lionizing of former martyrs is not an attempt to shame you. I still think that "don't be like the people who actually induced change because they were martyred" is a terrible take. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago Alright. Privilege is still relative. Being defensive is not going to change that. The fear of "sticking your neck out" is still very individualistic thinking. The goal is to learn and organize so WE can stick our necks out together. My lionizing of former martyrs is not an attempt to shame you. I still think that "don't be like the people who actually induced change because they were martyred" is a terrible take. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago If that day comes, do you really think that the absence of your name on a roster is going to stop them? Obedience in advance only teaches authority what it can get away with. The capabilities of authority generally are much less far-reaching than what they lead us to believe. Oppression breeds resistance and struggle, whereas the state would have us believe in the fantasy of unilateral control and suppression of dissent. You owe it to yourself to study revolutionary history beyond just the most shocking events that scare you away from organizing. In the words of the late assata shakur; It is our duty to fight. It is our duty to win. We must love each other and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) thanks, but don't be; i'm convinced that i would be yet another liberal doomscrolling my life away, embittering myself further by the day because of the deep ignorance from the western propaganda like it is for some of my siblings/cousins/nephews/neices who turn to alcohol, drugs and other self destructive coping mechanisms. i'm convinced that my dark skin; my queerness; and my nuero-divergence have forced me to develop tools that have proven themselves useful in thwarting the asshattery that life in this late stage capitalist world throws at me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago Not the indomitable spirit; simply A LOT of ass artificially bouying my spirits. Lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) thanks, but don't be; i'm convinced that i would be yet another liberal doomscrolling my life away, embittering myself further by the day because of the deep ignorance from the western propaganda like it is for some of my siblings/cousins/nephews/neices who turn to alcohol, drugs and other self destructive coping mechanisms. i'm convinced that my dark skin; my queerness; and my nuero-divergence have forced me to develop tools that have proven themselves useful in thwarting the asshattery that life in this late stage capitalist world throws at me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago Not the indomitable spirit; simply A LOT of ass artificially bouying my spirits. Lol permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago Not the indomitable spirit; simply A LOT of ass artificially bouying my spirits. Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago Not the indomitable spirit; simply A LOT of ass artificially bouying my spirits. Lol permalink fedilink source parent