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[–] nocturne@piefed.social 45 points 10 months ago (14 children)

There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023. But it does not list who killed them.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/

in 2021, 147 women were killed by 144 men.

https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/07/04/census-details-how-often-men-kill-women

using the lower number from 2021, and the bear fatalities from the same year (6 total, only 4 were women), women are 36.5 times more likely to be killed by a man than a bear... and this is not counting rape.

Bear attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

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[–] Deceptichum [S] 18 points 10 months ago (1 child)

You didn't factor in the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow.

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[–] nocturne@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago

are you suggesting rapists migrate?

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[+] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

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[–] msage@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You are such an asshole.

I'm not the first to say that, not the last, but you need to be reminded of that constantly.

Fuck you, fuck your bad faith arguments, and go away.

You are also the reason why people choose bears.

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[–] nocturne@piefed.social 8 points 10 months ago

You are also the reason why people choose bears.

That was my thought reading every single one of their replies.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I don't know who this guy is, nor do I want to read their history... But I agree, they do seem like an asshole.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Is that scaling for interactions? Total amount of women who've interacted with a bear VS a man.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

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[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023

Murder isn't the only way to be killed. Case in point, 2,958 women's deaths are classified as "passenger vehicle accidents", plus another 2,126 pedestrian deaths.

By gender, the overwhelming majority of accident drivers are men (13,085 : 5,212). So if you're worried specifically about dying and you exclude all murderers, just getting in a car makes other male drivers vastly more dangerous than bears.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Holy shit, that's nuts! This should be in the top comments for this silly hypothetical lol. I think you just checkmated nearly everyone trying to argue against the bear.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

How many men existed in 2021 and how many bears existed in 2021?almost got the per capita rates

Also if you're going to include the rape statistics you gotta include them for bears too.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

I'm sure your keen criticism of statistical assessments of the situation will change the minds of woman everywhere.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 6 points 10 months ago

You can't control other peoples sexuality, dork.

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[+] liuther9@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

2,958 women's deaths are classified as "passenger vehicle accidents", plus another 2,126 pedestrian deaths.