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[–] 15 points 10 months ago (16 children)

People have made it excessive due to turning AI into a modern witch hunt. Maybe if people had a more nuanced take than "all AI bad" companies could be more open about how they use AI.

I can guarantee that if E33 came out with the AI disclaimer it would've been far more controversial and probably less successful. And technically they should have an AI label because they did use Gen AI in the development process even if none of it was supposed to end up in the final game.

But we can't have companies being honest because people can't be normal.

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  • [+] 15 points 10 months ago* (6 children)
  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    How do I put this.

    AI isn't exactly the cause of the rise in the price of hardware. Only 1/6th of the purchased Nvidia cards are actually in data centers. Same for the memory.

    We're not using it.

    What's really drumming up all the prices is that the billionaires are convinced that AI is going to replace tons and tons of people. It's not. It's the insane corporate hype that's doing all the damage.

    It will replace some, sure. The same way the electric drill replaced carpenters. One electric drill does not replace one carpenter. That's not how that works. Instead the carpenters can work a bit faster and their job is a bit easier. It's worth buying and it's worth using, but it doesn't really replace a person. Accountants didn't disappear as a profession when spreadsheets were invented.

    There were books written in the 1980s about how household appliances raised the standard of cleanliness. Turns out people change clothes more when cleaning clothes doesn't involve a washing board. And I don't think Roombas replaced that many jobs either.

    In particular, I think this is a thing that will happen for software development. I don't think it'll reduce the number of developers we need. I think the standards for development will just be higher. All the front end stuff in particular is going to get easier, and you won't need as many frameworks. We'll especially need just as many devs, if not more, in the short term. Someone's going to have to fix the mess all these companies are going to make after they've fired half their devs and tried to just vibe code everything.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I agree the current state of affairs makes people even more against AI and I think people have a good reason to be against AI, but don't you find it a bit contradictory how people are less antagonistic towards E33 AI use now that it has been revealed?

    People are far more antagonistic towards games when the first thing they see is the AI label, to the point where they dismiss the entire game as AI slop, but it seems people are willing to be more lenient on AI usage when they first get to experience the game for what it is. This unreasonable reaction to the first impression is why companies would rather hide their AI usage rather than inform the customer.

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  • [+] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)
  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    So if I train a model from scratch using only my own art is it still bad?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Okay but first, will you admit that if my cancer curing Unicorn only dispenses 100 doses of its miracle medicine from its butt when I kill a homeless man, you’d agree killing the homeless is a moral good, right?

    Or, you know, we could throw away silly fantasy scenarios.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It’s not a fantasy 😆 It’s an actual product everyone can use.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Really? Can you share your fully realized and operational generative AI that exists, and only created its model from artwork you personally made or retain full legal reproduction rights to?

    Answers Yes, or Sorry, I Lied.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    This one here: https://www.scenario.com/

    Also at least Rovio has had an “AI” art asset pipeline for years now, even before ChatGPT. Their ML unit is well over a decade old. And it’s specifically tuned for their own style: https://youtu.be/ZDrqhVSY9Mc

    I’m not talking out of my ass, I work with this shit daily.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Again: This is not a cake. This is a recipe book and an oven. Scenario's demo reel showcases models they have finished training, and vouch that you can make one from scratch. I am asking you for a finished AI model you have ready to use.

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