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How could this happen? (quokk.au)
submitted 11 months ago by [A] to c/peoplemastodon
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[–] 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I see myself as mostly atheistic mixed with agnostic, and I think that you are missing an important point here.

I absolutely agree that saying that God gave humanity science is incorrect.

However, consider the end goal, it should be to have more people embrace science or at a minimum embrace scientific data, right?

If that is the case, then I think we can make an argument that while God didn't give humanity science, he did create us in his image (according to the bible), we can use that to say that not only did he create our physical appearance in his image, but also our brains, giving us reasoning, which we used to develop the sciences.

Thus embracing science could be argued means using our God given brains, and from that science is the ultimate achievement of God.

Rejecting science in this context means throwing away the gift God gave you.

This turned out way more philosophical and theological than I thought, but it is an interesting discussion.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    If you're a scientific you'll quickly debunk that "he did create us...". It's up to you to prove god created us at all, which you cannot of course.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    Obviously, but consider the end goal i mentioned, what should the end goal be? Is any religios belief detrimental to science?

    I am an IT guy, and as stated before, I am mostly atheistic but also agnostic in some views.

    The largest of my agnostic views has to do with the big bang.

    I am no scientist, so I probably misunderstand it, but the way I have had it explained to me is something like this

    First there was nothing, then the big bang happened.

    And that is something I just can't wrap my head around, how can "nothing" explode?

    This is a point where I can absolutely insert a deity, something omnipotent could absolutely cause the big bang.

    If there is no such entity, then I tend to consider the thought that we might live in a simulation.

    In either case I don't believe that we humans living on this random planet is important enough that the world was created specifically for us, I just consider the big bang as possibly involving an omnipotent entity, the rest can be explained by science.

    But mostly I don't think about it at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    First there was nothing

    That might be the cause of your agnosticism, here. The big bang certainly didn't happen from nothing; we're just not up to working out what it did come from, yet - and there's a chance we may never be able to know. But that didn't mean it came from nothing.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    There is no end goal, thete is just us all living for a short period of time on this rock in space.

    Thinking that there is an end goal is what might lead you to think that then there has to be some reason behind ot all, and thus believe in god or something.

    Come join us absurdists! We know what's going on 😁!

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