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Luigi in court today (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/luigimangione@lemmy.world
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[–] 7 points 11 months ago (20 children)

Honest question, does anyone actually think he didn't do it?

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    The fact he was "found" in the most nonchalant way at McDonald's with the evidence on him is very suspicious. And then he just walked around with it for 2 days? Dude, I'm ditching and burning everything in the first hour. I know criminals are supposed to be dumb. But come on, this guy doesn't look dumb.

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Especially given the shooter printed parts of the weapon and had no cellphone on them when they shot Brian McEvilCEO or whatever his name was. And then hopped on a scooter and left the island without a trace. So much planning went into the prep and, ahem, execution of the plan that holding into blatant evidence like a signed confession 2 days after the fact doesn't make any sense. It screams planted evidence on a person who vaguely looked like the only screenshot I've ever seen of the ahooter smiling.

    At the very least I have very reasonable doubts and would not be selected for the jury.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Another thing that gets me is that Mangione seems like just the kind of guy you would try to pin something like this on. He was a queer kid, estranged from his family (or at least out of contact for a prolonged period), and living in a hostel. Isn't that the oldest police trick in the book when they want to "solve" a case, blame it on some drifter from out of town?

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Obviously we can't know for sure, but there was a lot of stuff about the incident and especially his arrest that point toward him bring used as a useful patsy to try to control the narrative in light of the near universal approval of the death of a health insurance CEO.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I get rooting for him, it just always felt like all the comments about him not doing it were mostly memes (see the "he was with me" comments under my original comment), but lately I got the feeling people seriously think he's innocent.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    My Dad doesn't. He's very opposed to the killing ideologically and thinks Luigi is taking the fall for someone. My dad's weird.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    Here's the thing: the default position is not believing something either way. They have to get enough evidence to make me believe. So far, it doesn't seem to be there. There's some evidence, but there's also plenty of reason to be skeptical of it. My position currently is that it's possible, but I don't believe he did it.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yes. Some people think the original picture released doesn't match Luigi and therefore it can't be the same person, for example.

    There's also some people who suspect it probably was him, but believe that illegal means were used to find him and they can't use such evidence in-court because it would require admitting to having a secret mass surveillance network. I assume for such people, a belief in a secret CIA/FBI mass surveillance network came first, so of course they could find the guy using it.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    What came first, actual parallel evidence construction or people believing such a thing was possible?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    When I was a little kid, my older sister used to bite me sometimes. My mom once told her in front of me when I was about 4, that if she did it again, my mother would bite her back. As soon as my mom was elsewhere, I bit the outside of my forearm hard enough to leave a mark that looked like someone else had done it (I know, younger siblings, but she was ten years old biting a preschooler, so I support it). My mom did bite her, but probably not really very hard and my sister stopped biting me after that. I’m not sure how I feel about that parenting, but I’m not a parent, so I’ll withhold judgement. Plus it worked.

    I’m pretty sure they’ve both been around forever

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    personally i don't care either way if he did or didn't, in this case a terrible human is dead...maybe other terrible humans will have moment of introspection and change their ways if one of their own is murdered and the (alledged) killer gets away with it.

    therefor the result with most net-good is a not-guilty verdict

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