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Man Detained by ICE Found Dead, Hanging With Hands and Feet Tied—Attorney (www.newsweek.com)
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A Chinese immigrant was found dead in U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention, with his hands and feet tied behind him, an attorney has alleged.

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[+] -29 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Epstein killed himself because the guards and cameras were called off. Someone whispered in his ear, "Do yourself or face hell. Think on it. We'll give you a few."

If you've never spent a couple of days in county, you can hardly imagine what a billionaire was facing. ALL the privilege and leverage in the world, gone. And try to put yourself in Epstein's shoes! Dozens of powerful men want you dead. Might as well get it over with. Epstein killed himself because he was allowed to kill himself.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    If you’ve never spent a couple of days in county, you can hardly imagine what a billionaire was facing. ALL the privilege and leverage in the world, gone. Exactly.

    People really underestimate this.

    Suicide risk is dramatically higher when a person is first incarcerated. The shock caused by being in a dramatically different living situation and the knowledge that this is your new reality for the rest of your life is immense even if you come from a normal background with normal struggles.

    This guy was a billionaire. To there's nothing that he couldn't do or have (even evil and gruesome things, as we know). He was the king of his world, he had staff, multiple houses, private islands, jets, every hedonistic pleasure and experience was available to him at any time.

    He went from living that life to sleeping on a tiny steel cot with a pancake-thick mattress, in a 7'x12' box. He doesn't control anything there, when he eats, when he sleeps, where he goes, who he talks to are all determined by other people. He doesn't even control his own light switch.

    That's an incredibly powerful shock in a situation where we know that the risk of suicide is increased.

    The fact that people see this suicide as a conspiracy is more evidence of proportionality bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_bias) than anything else.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    This is a very solid point, but how did he manage to do the act while tied up in a pickle suit and on suicide watch?

    Forgive me if I'm not mistaken, but he was under the supervision of two guards specifically because they understood the high risk he was at, so they took precautions to prevent it.

    Was he just that competent that he Houdini'd himself out of a super straitjacket and managed to expediently end himself under 24/7 supervision?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    You're pretty mistaken. He wasn't in any kind of restraints or suit, he was in a regular cell in confinement in regular inmate uniform..

    If you look at the cell photos he had his personal items and bed sheets, that isn't give to a person who is on suicide watch. They're given a padded room and a smock made out of a material like really thick toilet paper which can't be shredded and made into a rope.

    He was alone in a regular cell, he had access to all of his personal and canteen items and regular bedding. He killed himself with the sheets that every inmate is given.

    It's not exciting, but people kill themselves in prison all of the time. It doesn't take a grand conspiracy to understand why a billionaire facing effectively life in prison would feel suicidal.

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