▲ 385 ▼ Rant - it's always frustrating to see people considering 38k monthly active users as "no users" (piefedimages.s3.eu-central-003.backblazeb2.com) submitted 11 months ago by Blaze@piefed.zip to c/fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 133 comments fedilink hide all child comments For the whole thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1ouk003/reddit_no_longer_allows_api_access_without_an/
[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (12 children) Where can you monitor it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (11 children) https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 you can also count Mbin and PieFed, but they aren't as big https://piefed.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 https://mbin.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (7 children) Comments have been rising but users decreasing, could this be that people have settled to one account or that bots have made more comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago (3 children) Also the wave of speculative users and tourists who were only ever going to just check it out has died down while the actually invested users have settled more in. It's not about how many people are here, it's about how engaged those who stay are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum 3 points 11 months ago We still need more people here, we cannot support niche communities and as such lose that wreath of knowledge that made Reddit good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) True, I think as long as the comments are not from bots it’s looking fine. And I haven’t noticed anything like that here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago I have no doubt there is some small level of bot and other bad actor infiltration here on Lemmy too, but the big difference is there's no incentive for any sort of authority to quietly endorse said bad actors. To me the difference is that while the reddit community hates bots, Reddit loves bots. We are the community here, for the most part, so the dichotomy doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) It would be nice to know the ratio of users/bots in X, Reddit, Facebook, ... and the Fediverse. I'm pretty sure we would be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) All forums can be used to influence general opinion. If there were more users here I’m sure there would be more pressure trying to get past the current safeguards. What do you think about the bot situation here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I've seen some LLM bots here... its getting weirder... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Someone mentioned nodeBB in the Reddit thread: https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 The numbers seem odd, @1@activitypub.space do you think they are accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most of that seems to come from https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/community.sketchucation.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago Thank you, that would make sense. Not sure if any of their communities federate with any other Threadiverse instance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (11 children) https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 you can also count Mbin and PieFed, but they aren't as big https://piefed.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 https://mbin.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (7 children) Comments have been rising but users decreasing, could this be that people have settled to one account or that bots have made more comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago (3 children) Also the wave of speculative users and tourists who were only ever going to just check it out has died down while the actually invested users have settled more in. It's not about how many people are here, it's about how engaged those who stay are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum 3 points 11 months ago We still need more people here, we cannot support niche communities and as such lose that wreath of knowledge that made Reddit good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) True, I think as long as the comments are not from bots it’s looking fine. And I haven’t noticed anything like that here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago I have no doubt there is some small level of bot and other bad actor infiltration here on Lemmy too, but the big difference is there's no incentive for any sort of authority to quietly endorse said bad actors. To me the difference is that while the reddit community hates bots, Reddit loves bots. We are the community here, for the most part, so the dichotomy doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) It would be nice to know the ratio of users/bots in X, Reddit, Facebook, ... and the Fediverse. I'm pretty sure we would be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) All forums can be used to influence general opinion. If there were more users here I’m sure there would be more pressure trying to get past the current safeguards. What do you think about the bot situation here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I've seen some LLM bots here... its getting weirder... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Someone mentioned nodeBB in the Reddit thread: https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 The numbers seem odd, @1@activitypub.space do you think they are accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most of that seems to come from https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/community.sketchucation.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago Thank you, that would make sense. Not sure if any of their communities federate with any other Threadiverse instance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (7 children) Comments have been rising but users decreasing, could this be that people have settled to one account or that bots have made more comments? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago (3 children) Also the wave of speculative users and tourists who were only ever going to just check it out has died down while the actually invested users have settled more in. It's not about how many people are here, it's about how engaged those who stay are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum 3 points 11 months ago We still need more people here, we cannot support niche communities and as such lose that wreath of knowledge that made Reddit good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) True, I think as long as the comments are not from bots it’s looking fine. And I haven’t noticed anything like that here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago I have no doubt there is some small level of bot and other bad actor infiltration here on Lemmy too, but the big difference is there's no incentive for any sort of authority to quietly endorse said bad actors. To me the difference is that while the reddit community hates bots, Reddit loves bots. We are the community here, for the most part, so the dichotomy doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) It would be nice to know the ratio of users/bots in X, Reddit, Facebook, ... and the Fediverse. I'm pretty sure we would be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) All forums can be used to influence general opinion. If there were more users here I’m sure there would be more pressure trying to get past the current safeguards. What do you think about the bot situation here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I've seen some LLM bots here... its getting weirder... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago (3 children) Also the wave of speculative users and tourists who were only ever going to just check it out has died down while the actually invested users have settled more in. It's not about how many people are here, it's about how engaged those who stay are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum 3 points 11 months ago We still need more people here, we cannot support niche communities and as such lose that wreath of knowledge that made Reddit good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) True, I think as long as the comments are not from bots it’s looking fine. And I haven’t noticed anything like that here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago I have no doubt there is some small level of bot and other bad actor infiltration here on Lemmy too, but the big difference is there's no incentive for any sort of authority to quietly endorse said bad actors. To me the difference is that while the reddit community hates bots, Reddit loves bots. We are the community here, for the most part, so the dichotomy doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum 3 points 11 months ago We still need more people here, we cannot support niche communities and as such lose that wreath of knowledge that made Reddit good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) True, I think as long as the comments are not from bots it’s looking fine. And I haven’t noticed anything like that here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago I have no doubt there is some small level of bot and other bad actor infiltration here on Lemmy too, but the big difference is there's no incentive for any sort of authority to quietly endorse said bad actors. To me the difference is that while the reddit community hates bots, Reddit loves bots. We are the community here, for the most part, so the dichotomy doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago I have no doubt there is some small level of bot and other bad actor infiltration here on Lemmy too, but the big difference is there's no incentive for any sort of authority to quietly endorse said bad actors. To me the difference is that while the reddit community hates bots, Reddit loves bots. We are the community here, for the most part, so the dichotomy doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) It would be nice to know the ratio of users/bots in X, Reddit, Facebook, ... and the Fediverse. I'm pretty sure we would be surprised. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) All forums can be used to influence general opinion. If there were more users here I’m sure there would be more pressure trying to get past the current safeguards. What do you think about the bot situation here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I've seen some LLM bots here... its getting weirder... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) All forums can be used to influence general opinion. If there were more users here I’m sure there would be more pressure trying to get past the current safeguards. What do you think about the bot situation here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I've seen some LLM bots here... its getting weirder... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I've seen some LLM bots here... its getting weirder... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Someone mentioned nodeBB in the Reddit thread: https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24 The numbers seem odd, @1@activitypub.space do you think they are accurate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most of that seems to come from https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/community.sketchucation.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago Thank you, that would make sense. Not sure if any of their communities federate with any other Threadiverse instance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most of that seems to come from https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/community.sketchucation.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago Thank you, that would make sense. Not sure if any of their communities federate with any other Threadiverse instance permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaze@piefed.zip [S] 2 points 11 months ago Thank you, that would make sense. Not sure if any of their communities federate with any other Threadiverse instance permalink fedilink source parent